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Old 13th September 2009, 10:21 AM   #1
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Default Advice on internal wiring upgrade for a pair of B&W 800D's

I've recently purchased a new pair of B&W 800D speakers : http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=1159

I'm going to upgrade the internal wiring from:

Tweeter/Midrange uses Copper/Silver 14AWG Van Den Hul CS-14 http://www.vandenhul.com/p_D03AE.aspx (About $7AUD per metre)
Woofers users 12AWG OFC

Im thinking of using one of the following:

Vampire Wire - SC-1108 - Silver/Copper http://www.vampirewire.com/pc-154-41-sc-1108.aspx
Oyaide's - Tunami Nigo - Copper Crystal with 3-LAYER Sheilding http://www.oyaide.com/e_audio/audio_...unami_nigo.htm
Furutech - Alpha S25 Copper http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=298

Any one used these cables before or can you recommend other high-quality cables?

Another option is to use a pre-made speaker cable and cut it down to size...

Also would you recommend using the same length of cable for all the drivers? or just make the partner driver cable length the same?

I don't want to start a cable love-hate thread, just looking for some advice...

And "If its not broken, don't fix it" isn't going to cut it

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Old 13th September 2009, 11:30 AM   #2
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Seriously? My advice is to leave the 10k+ speakers alone.

What is it exactly you don't like about the sound? Or I'll say this another way, what is it exactly you're hoping to change by altering the wire?
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Old 13th September 2009, 12:16 PM   #3
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I'm not a big believer in expensive cables myselt but I remain open minded.
What I do know for sure, from a B&W design engineer, is that they take the whole cable thing -very- seriously. My point being that I'm not sure if you'll find any benefits.
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Old 13th September 2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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Van Den Hul is good wire, I'm not sure if any of the others would be considered an upgrade.

Are those Mundorf SIO in the HF section?
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Old 13th September 2009, 02:18 PM   #5
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Firstly, Congratulations on your new speakers

My only advice would be to upgrade the internal wiring with exactly the same wire you will be running to your amps. There's allot written about the subject but the main idea being that the chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Or that to fully realize/hear the upgrade, try to avoid negating it by mixing brands/models.

You might also find some advice from B&W dealers/company on the subject as the best place to start and avoid expensive trial and error. But having said that DIY audio as a hobby always calls for some spare cable floating about!

A general rule of thumb (and i do mean general) is to spend roughly 10% of equipment costs on ancillaries which would give you a starting budget of about 1k. Scary but with a speaker of your quality not an unreasonable proposition. At which point you might start looking at Nordost or Cardas cable as other options.

We would all love to hear back on your developments and you never know, you may be the one to turn this into another cable love/hate thread.

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Old 13th September 2009, 09:48 PM   #6
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Van Den Hul is good wire, I'm not sure if any of the others would be considered an upgrade.

Are those Mundorf SIO in the HF section?
B&W 800D Crossover

Tweeter - 4.7uF Mundorf Gold/Silver Capacitor
Midrange - 22uf+22uF+10uF Mundorf Supreme Capacitors
Woofer - 100uf+100uF Mundorf Mcap Capacitors

Tweeter/Midrange uses Van Den Hul CS-14 Copper/Silver 14AWG cable
Woofers use copper 12AWG cable
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Old 13th September 2009, 10:53 PM   #7
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You don't want any of that fuzzy stranded wire; you want solid! Any 10-12AWG solid copper from the hardware store....

(And get rid of those wasteful coils on the woofer by going active.)
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Old 14th September 2009, 12:42 AM   #8
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Save your money and don't bother with "upgrading" the internal wiring - you simply won't hear a difference because none exists.
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Old 14th September 2009, 01:41 AM   #9
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I would suggest finding and engaging in some other activity with proven benefits.
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What about the sound are you looking to change?

More high end tilt, more warmth, more resolution, more of a natural tone, etc...
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