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Old 7th September 2009, 09:57 PM   #1
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alright, so, I've been into headphone hifi for about a year now.

I've built two DIY headphone amps, but I know almost nothing about speaker diy specific stuff.

anyway, so, recently I've been wanting to share the enjoyment of my music with others... but my speakers sound horrid.. which leads me to this.

I would like to build my own speakers in the neighbor hood of $150.
I know almost nothing about speakers, so, I will admit that I might need a tadbit of spoon feeding.
If that's not acceptable than it would request that you do the decent thing of telling me to do my own f**king research before moving on =)


In any case..
I am looking for bookshelf speakers with a price around ~$150 completed.
But this price is highly flexible, and I am mostly just looking for high bang for my buck without breaking the bank.

Now, on to the sound.
I want bookshelf speakers that aren't going to require a subwoofer, but I am
not a basshead... so it doesn't need to be in excess.

I don't want the speakers to be excessively warm.
And, I like sweeter highs, so slightly bright would also be nice.
Basically anything that will make excel in female vocals would be nice.
(mostly japanese female vocals, so a bit higher pitched)

More on the detailed/clinical side rather than the "musical" side

I listen to alot of syth heavy music.
basshunter, perfume (jpop), girl's generation, and the like.
I also listen to Utada Hikaru, and stuff like that

I know this is a tall list of requirements and my budget is very limited.. which is why I am very willing to compromise in almost any direction.

I was considering these.
http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/TritrixMT_pg_2.html

thanks for reading =)
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Old 7th September 2009, 11:17 PM   #2
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Here.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=302-856

Do yourself a quick and dirty cabinet and robert's your mother's brother.
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Old 8th September 2009, 12:03 AM   #3
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alright, so, I've been into headphone hifi for about a year now.

I've built two DIY headphone amps, but I know almost nothing about speaker diy specific stuff.

anyway, so, recently I've been wanting to share the enjoyment of my music with others... but my speakers sound horrid.. which leads me to this.

I would like to build my own speakers in the neighbor hood of $150.
I know almost nothing about speakers, so, I will admit that I might need a tadbit of spoon feeding.
If that's not acceptable than it would request that you do the decent thing of telling me to do my own f**king research before moving on =)


In any case..
I am looking for bookshelf speakers with a price around ~$150 completed.
But this price is highly flexible, and I am mostly just looking for high bang for my buck without breaking the bank.

Now, on to the sound.
I want bookshelf speakers that aren't going to require a subwoofer, but I am
not a basshead... so it doesn't need to be in excess.

I don't want the speakers to be excessively warm.
And, I like sweeter highs, so slightly bright would also be nice.
Basically anything that will make excel in female vocals would be nice.
(mostly japanese female vocals, so a bit higher pitched)

More on the detailed/clinical side rather than the "musical" side

I listen to alot of syth heavy music.
basshunter, perfume (jpop), girl's generation, and the like.
I also listen to Utada Hikaru, and stuff like that

I know this is a tall list of requirements and my budget is very limited.. which is why I am very willing to compromise in almost any direction.

I was considering these.
http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/TritrixMT_pg_2.html

thanks for reading =)
$150? If only you can go for Paradigm Titan. But you can look at E bay for mint condition quality speakers. One of my friend bought Bose 301 ver.3 for $ 122. I replaced the internal wirings with gauge 12 magnet wire and capacitors with polypropylene caps with .01 Vishay MKP 1837 caps soldered parallel to HF and MF capacitors. The sound is like high end entry level speaker. Try it if you like.
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Old 8th September 2009, 12:10 AM   #4
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Here.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=302-856

Do yourself a quick and dirty cabinet and robert's your mother's brother.


those seem nice
"The net result is a small, high-resolution package that will deliver faithful, detailed sound reproduction."


I was planning on wiring up the crossover myself.
Is there a benefit to using the pre built ones?

more suggestions would also be appreciated.

EDIT:
monreq: not really looking to mod speakers, but thanks for the suggestion

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Old 8th September 2009, 03:09 PM   #5
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I just realized that this kit is for -one- speaker.

So, that set pretty much blows my budget out of the water.
It does look like a nice kit though..
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Old 8th September 2009, 03:20 PM   #6
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I just realized that this kit is for -one- speaker.

So, that set pretty much blows my budget out of the water.
It does look like a nice kit though..
Hah really??

Woops.

Okay here's another thump at it:

Brush up on your Dutch now.

Seriously though there's enough pics and diagrams that actually reading it isn't all that necessary. I didn't. I've just built these and the combo is very strong for the tiny amount of money you need to sink to build these. (Inside 150).

The bookshelfification of these is a wee challenge. But the modifications to the x.o. should be something someone here can help with?
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Old 8th September 2009, 03:24 PM   #7
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Okay ignore my last post it's unnecessarily complicated.


These are my vote. And they totally fit within your budget.

Woofers: $20 each
Tweeters: $13 each


And as long as you don't use boutique parts this x.o. is cheap as chips.
Click the image to open in full size.

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Old 8th September 2009, 03:46 PM   #8
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You could build a pair, or buy some. If you were to buy some, at the budget end, a pair of Mission 760i - £30 ish here - £200 ish when they first appeared - (considered old ish now, still sound good).

Building speakers is considered far more satisfying, so we can set off on designs there.

I'd recommend a front-ported two way design, as it seems popular with the manufacturers etc. If volume isn't your thing, say now, because you can get some really low bass, as long as you don't mind losing out on maximum SPL.

If SPL isn't your thing, I can recommend a nice design which has some really good midrange performance, and bass goes fairly low for such a design.

Talking of bass, I'd aim for the 40-50Hz range for the lower cutoff, as going lower requires moving significant amounts of air, which isn't available in small speakers.

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Old 9th September 2009, 12:22 AM   #9
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I reckon spend a little bit more and do the hatt mk111 from humblehomemadehifi. I built them and loved them so much im building another pair!
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Old 9th September 2009, 01:01 AM   #10
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how about the recession buster kit from madisound?
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