Pro vs hifi drivers - pros and cons?

[doug20]

Originally Posted by cbdb

Sure limits your choices (unless your stuck in nostalic old recordings) For me, the most exciting music is the new stuff. And its the music thats a lot more important than the SQ. I will listen to crapy recordings on MP3 on earbuds if thats all I have and its good music.

You,me and 99.9% of the population...Im 40 but Im not dead (I own all the latest music from Foo Fighters to Dave Matthews...incredible stuff and it adds to my collection from AC/DC to Rush).

Those who actually complain about music are only on online forums.They are a small, small minority and they do not matter in terms of the path music has taking. Online downloads has been the future for almost 10 years now (I was posting on other sites calling it back before napster). Music creation and sales has never been about how good its recorded. Its all about how the music makes you feel period.

Those who complain just get older and older and the issue dies off.

[quiet fish]

When you have a higher end custom HT, you will understand that we do not just watch a movie. We experience it and that requires the highest quality setups and we definitely are far beyond AC-3

depends on the degree of your imagination. move itself is not reality it is a reflection of the reality or author imagination to the certain point

[doug20]

Originally Posted by quiet fish

depends on the degree of your imagination. move itself is not reality it is a reflection of the reality or author imagination to the certain point

imagination and the fact that a gunshot hits you in the chest or an explosion makes your hair stand up and the sound is extremely clean (no distortion, no bad decay)....Im not imagining all of that

btw, I would never bother with movie like a love story with just dialog in the custom room....any setup is fine for just a story like that (and yes I watch them sometimes to make my wife happy )

Also, Live Concerts are incredible too so its not just a movie thing. I just wish more existed on BD.

Obviously, I can not control the content quality levels but no matter what I know my setup measured at a high enough quality level so that if the content is of a higher quality I will have a system that handles it.

Audio accuracy matters in a HT as much as it matters for those 2 channel guys.

I care about how it all measures, my room response is better then most 2 channel setups too because in most cases they have no idea about the room decay, if any null exist or what the overall response is in room. They still think their ears are all they need.

[Pano]

Sigh.... continuing obsession with the extremes of the spectrum. But if that's what floats your boat, why not? I like low bass, but it is not the most important part of the music for me.
But what I like is not what you like, so who am I to say? Kinda like pro vs hi-fi drivers, isn't it? Whatever makes you happy.

[doug20]

Originally Posted by panomaniac

Sigh.... continuing obsession with the extremes of the spectrum. But if that's what floats your boat, why not? I like low bass, but it is not the most important part of the music for me.
But what I like is not what you like, so who am I to say? Kinda like pro vs hi-fi drivers, isn't it? Whatever makes you happy.

You can "like" anything you want but in the end if the discussion is about system accuracy then we have to atleast have some measurements to back up opinion.

Until I actually read post from this site, I never considered hifi drivers to be so different then pro drivers or that people actually had a hatred towards pro audio drivers When I look for drivers, I simply find the driver that meets my specs and never put any sort of label on them.

Why does it really matter in the end? Its all about the driver itself and not if its sold on a pro audio site or not.

Heck, I wish drivers labelled as "hifi" had 95+ dB sensitivity. New SB acoustics drivers are getting up there but there is really isnt any choices.

[markus76]

Originally Posted by doug20

When I look for drivers, I simply find the driver that meets my specs and never put any sort of label on them.

Why does it really matter in the end? Its all about the driver itself and not if its sold on a pro audio site or not.

True but obviously for most audiophiles its the label instead of the performance what defines the value.

Best, Markus

[J.R.Freeman]

Originally Posted by doug20

Most people that understand its all sound reproduction (music or audio from movies) would never even have to decide because both are all about ultimate SQ.

Welcome back Doug,

I would argue that in the case of Home Theater, sound quality is important but it is not a primary goal. Home Fundamentally, Home Theater audio is about special effects.

That being said, you could build a Home Theater audio system around highly accurate speakers. But traditionally such a system has different goals than, say, a studio monitor system.

Jim

[Robh3606]

I would argue that in the case of Home Theater, sound quality is important but it is not a primary goal. Home Fundamentally, Home Theater audio is about special effects.

It is for the audio portion of the system but I agree it's not for the video half. The sound is key to helping you get there. Ever watch a movie and have a character go outside onto a street from a building?? Think it's easy to make that sound real so you can hear the change in space?? They do it all the time in movies and for you to be able to just follow along it can't sound wrong or it will distract you from the film. It's all one experience not 2 seperate and unique ones

Rob

[doug20]

Originally Posted by J.R.Freeman

Welcome back Doug,

I would argue that in the case of Home Theater, sound quality is important but it is not a primary goal. Home Fundamentally, Home Theater audio is about special effects.

That being said, you could build a Home Theater audio system around highly accurate speakers. But traditionally such a system has different goals than, say, a studio monitor system.

Jim

Thanks

What is the difference between accurately reproducing a gun shot vs a guitar riff vs a paino note or a kick drum beat? I guess I see no difference when it comes to the signal and how the speaker reproduce that signal. Sound quality is just as important in HT, there is no way anyone can prove otherwise since its all purely just an individual need. I would say the majority of music listeners do not care about SQ either so all this is just meaningless subjective banter. For me HT SQ is important, its why I designed and treated my room, its why I measure my setup. No one can say they care more about SQ then me, again how many two channel guys are even measuring anything?




The requirements can be different for a great HT setup, its obviously different then a studio monitor setup so Im not sure your point, but its only about listening distance then any other factor really. Designs like Geddes speakers are 2 channel favorites and they work very well for HT....they also have the science behind them more so then many other products. Constant Directivity is just starting to creep into the home world, its going to be more important as years go by and people realize that truely is a better measured and sounding design.

[cbdb]

Fundamentally, Home Theater audio is about special effects.

Theres a lot more music in most movies than big sound FX, and a lot of that music is recorded and mixed better than a lot of music CDs.