|
|||||||
| Home | Forums | Rules | Articles | Store | Gallery | Blogs | Register | Donations | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read | Search |
| Multi-Way Conventional loudspeakers with crossovers |
|
Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.
Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving |
|
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tel Aviv
|
hello everyone.
i searched the forum for a simple explanations about speakers parameters. couldn't find one(unless it's buried in a prehistoric thread )....i understand some of them but in every speaker specifications i meet those 3 or 2 letters combos (Qms,Vas,Le etc...)followed by a value that makes me feel like i don't understand anything can someone please shed some light about these parameters? and please make the explanation idiot proof cause this stuff is really new to me here is an example of these parameters that make you feel like you should ask a pro: Nominal Impedance 6 ohm DC Resistance (Re) 4.2 ohm Voice Coil Inductance (Le) 1.2 mH Effective Piston Area (Sd) 508 cm2 Voice Coil Diameter 75.55 mm Voice Coil Height 28 mm Air Gap Height 6 mm Linear Coil Travel (p-p) 22 mm Maximum excursion (p-p) 0.87 T Magnet Weight 2.03 kg Net Weight 5.85 kg Free Air Resonance 19 Hz Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 91 dB Mechanical Q-factor (Qms) 7.8 Electrical Q-factor (Qes) 0.42 Total Q-factor (Qts) 0.40 Moving Mass incl. air (Md) 98 g Force Factor (BL) 10.8 Tm Equivalent Volume (Vas) 238 l Compliance (Cms) 650 um/N Mechanical Loss (Rm) 1.5 kg/s Rated Power Handling 200 Watt |
|
|
|
#2 |
|
diyAudio Moderator
|
I think what you are looking for is an explanation of Thiel-Small parameters,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiele/Small It's a hugely complicated subject
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
I consider myself somewhat new to all of this even though I've been building and buying audio for many years. I hope there is a link to a good explanation of the various terms or at least a list of all of the acronyms. If you can get one of the various simulation programs for building enclosures I think that would help explain how different values effect things and how control the design parameters.
I'm no genius but usually pick up on new concepts rather quickly, not so much with Hi-Fi though. It has taken awhile to read thru and digest and ponder on to sorta get a grasp on what gets discussed here. After you get a grasp on all of the factual hard numbers data then you have to factor in personal preferrence and design compromise etc. This part can get heated. Enjoy yourself and take the time to absorb all of the information on this wonderful site. |
|
|
|
#4 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
|
Alternatively, this could be a possibility. Very short and precise definitions, but also some further explanation:
sound.westhost.com/tsp.htm |
|
|
|
#5 | |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tel Aviv
|
Quote:
i was looking for a more simplified explanation. 901Fixer i tried to play a bit with bassbox pro and winISD but i couldn't make much of it .if what you guys are trying to tell me is that there is no simple explanation bring in the scuba gear im going in! |
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
Scuba gear required. I'm sure there is a general way to explain the basics but I haven't found it laid out that way anywhere and I have yet to experiment with any of the design programs but hope to eventually.
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Californication
|
I think the simplest way of explaining the Theile-Small parameters (T-S,TSP) is that they provide an electrical model to a speaker drivers mechanical properties. This electrical model basically helps understanding the low frequency resonance effect of a drivers properties interaction in a closed box or a tuned resonator box (bass reflex).
The first place to start is to fully grasp the idea of resonance learned in basic physics. Also basic electric circuits, same physics course? Then look at the Small's AES papers which can be found on the net. He has a glossary of the terms as an appendix.
__________________
like four million tons of hydrogen exploding on the sun like the whisper of the termites building castles in the dust |
|
|
|
#8 | ||
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tel Aviv
|
Quote:
straight forward then the wiki page. Quote:
![]() but i guess there is no running away. i'm starting to get the picture... no simple explanation. |
||
|
|
|
#9 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Herne
|
One doesnt really have to know the theory behind those parameters to use them. And using them is easy, since you usually just put them into a program and see what comes out
|
|
|
|
#10 | |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sunny Tustin, SoCal
|
Quote:
__________________
I write for www.enjoythemusic.com in the DIY section. You may find yourself getting a preview of a project in-progress. Be warned! |
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Tri Dummy Load | raudio1969 | Parts | 0 | 25th February 2009 01:14 AM |
| Please explain for me (dummy) | CJ900RR | Chip Amps | 7 | 26th September 2006 03:10 PM |
| Help this dummy | davidlzimmer | Multi-Way | 1 | 28th April 2006 04:32 PM |
| Dummy needs help | davidlzimmer | Solid State | 15 | 24th March 2006 11:44 PM |
| New To Site? | Need Help? |