Cone treatment

augerpro · 8th May 2009, 12:41 AM

Anyone know of good treatment to dampen the breakup of a cheap pro woofer? Maybe something viscous like Scanspeak, ATC, and AE use? Easy to apply. Nothing complex (sorry Enabl guys)

planet10 · 8th May 2009, 01:08 AM

puzzlekoat (aka modpodge) helps.

dave

augerpro · 8th May 2009, 08:26 PM

I did a search for that and the only thing that comes up posts on audio forums. I looked at some puzzle places and the glues were either wood glue or something else that hardens. I'm NOT looking for something that will harden and stiffen the cone. Any other ideas? Tangband uses this stuff on there dome mids so it can't be that hard to find. I just don't know what it is.

454Casull · 8th May 2009, 08:41 PM

Cascade damping spray has been used before. I would like to try slicing the way Scan-Speak does, too. You can seal the cuts with liquid rubber, but again Cascade has also been used to seal the cuts.

Cal Weldon · 8th May 2009, 09:16 PM

It is spelled Puzzle Kote.

http://www.franktross.com/creative/puzzle.asp

jzagaja · 8th May 2009, 09:24 PM

Why not use a discrete mass rings like in Balanced Mode Radiator?

planet10 · 8th May 2009, 09:35 PM

http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design/tweeks.html

dave

crazyhub · 8th May 2009, 09:47 PM

I use Vinylflex from Intertechnik, a black fluid compound especially made to treat paper membranes; it doesn't smell and dries quickly, resulting in a black visco-elastic layer; I had good results in damping a MCA12RCY cone which I didn't want the filter to be modified.
But I don't know where to buy it in the USA, sorry.

crazyhub · 8th May 2009, 09:54 PM

Found a similar product from Visaton sold by Solen:
http://www.solen.ca/pub/cms_nf_catal...2=2&niveau3=50

Cal Weldon · 8th May 2009, 10:10 PM

I see you caught the Monacor in time.

8th May 2009, 12:41 AM	#1
augerpro diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Cone treatment Anyone know of good treatment to dampen the breakup of a cheap pro woofer? Maybe something viscous like Scanspeak, ATC, and AE use? Easy to apply. Nothing complex (sorry Enabl guys) __________________ ~Brandon DriverVault Soma Sonus Old Driver Tests

8th May 2009, 01:08 AM	#2
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 4	puzzlekoat (aka modpodge) helps. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

8th May 2009, 08:26 PM	#3
augerpro diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006	I did a search for that and the only thing that comes up posts on audio forums. I looked at some puzzle places and the glues were either wood glue or something else that hardens. I'm NOT looking for something that will harden and stiffen the cone. Any other ideas? Tangband uses this stuff on there dome mids so it can't be that hard to find. I just don't know what it is. __________________ ~Brandon DriverVault Soma Sonus Old Driver Tests

8th May 2009, 08:41 PM	#4
454Casull diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada	Cascade damping spray has been used before. I would like to try slicing the way Scan-Speak does, too. You can seal the cuts with liquid rubber, but again Cascade has also been used to seal the cuts. __________________ Building a 2.1 system out of a 3/4"x4'x8' sheet

8th May 2009, 09:16 PM	#5
Cal Weldon Speakerholic diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: British Columbia	It is spelled Puzzle Kote. http://www.franktross.com/creative/puzzle.asp __________________ Next stop: Margaritaville Some of Cal's stuff \| Cal Weldon Consulting


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8th May 2009, 09:24 PM	#6
jzagaja diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Szczecin	Why not use a discrete mass rings like in Balanced Mode Radiator?

8th May 2009, 09:35 PM	#7
planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 4	http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design/tweeks.html dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

8th May 2009, 09:47 PM	#8
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	I use Vinylflex from Intertechnik, a black fluid compound especially made to treat paper membranes; it doesn't smell and dries quickly, resulting in a black visco-elastic layer; I had good results in damping a MCA12RCY cone which I didn't want the filter to be modified. But I don't know where to buy it in the USA, sorry. __________________ crazyhub

8th May 2009, 09:54 PM	#9
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	Found a similar product from Visaton sold by Solen: http://www.solen.ca/pub/cms_nf_catal...2=2&niveau3=50 __________________ crazyhub

8th May 2009, 10:10 PM	#10
Cal Weldon Speakerholic diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: British Columbia	I see you caught the Monacor in time. __________________ Next stop: Margaritaville Some of Cal's stuff \| Cal Weldon Consulting

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