Seas Illuminator Speaker Designs... - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Multi-Way

Multi-Way Conventional loudspeakers with crossovers

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 7th February 2009, 05:29 PM   #1
stuman is offline stuman  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Fareham
Default Seas Illuminator Speaker Designs...

been saving for a while to put together the best speakers i can. looking at spending 1500 for the lot, cabinets drivers crossover ect. think i have found the drivers im going to use but cant find much on here about projects. is there better out there?

size wise i would like to keep it as compact as possible and will try to keep to 5.25" woofer driver.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th February 2009, 07:12 PM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
benchtester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oakland, Calif.
I am a big fan of the 15W Revelator and the AirCirc (6600) tweeter.

You should look at:

www.zaphaudio.com

He as tested both Revelators and Illuminator with comments on both.

(in blog, tweeter mishmash, and 5.5" driver comparison sections)

The Illuminators certainly look cool and would be great in an OB. But I didn't see anything compelling to pick the Illuminators over the Revelators for sound quality.
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2009, 06:44 PM   #3
wa4swj is offline wa4swj  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Belleview, FL
Stuman,

I agree with benchtester. Here's a pair of ZRT (Zaph Revelator Towers) I built (without the baffles in place). See Zaph's web site.

Click the image to open in full size.

These are great speakers.

Edit: BTW- these cost me about $1500 to build including the cases and all parts.

Best regards,
__________________
------------
Ed Long
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2009, 07:01 PM   #4
tinitus is offline tinitus  Europe
diyAudio Moderator R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Default Re: Seas Illuminator Speaker Designs...

Quote:
Originally posted by stuman
been saving for a while to put together the best speakers i can.

is there better out there?

size wise i would like to keep it as compact as possible and will try to keep to 5.25" woofer driver.

Cant say what is best...I suppose its all good when done right

Mayb double woofers in 2.5way would work nice

All I can say is that the crossover will make the difference...a HUGE difference
Different xo design will all sound very different, even with the same drivers

A nice looking 3way with relatively cheap drivers
http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/Sta...s_Monitor.html

A new relatively compact design from Troels, with quality drivers
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/SP44.htm

Another quality kit from Troels
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/ATR-TL.htm

You will probably have to wait a while fore high quality DIY designs with Illuminators
Attached Images
File Type: jpg statements_monitors_0026-nw_small.jpg (50.3 KB, 463 views)
__________________
sometimes we know very little, and sometimes we know too much
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2009, 08:45 PM   #5
bastek is offline bastek  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NY
This looks great if you can manage the crossover..(proprietary kit)
It should be around 1.8Khz
Click the image to open in full size.
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2009, 09:16 PM   #6
stuman is offline stuman  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Fareham
yes indeed they do look nice. would like to use the illuminator tweet (D3004/662000). very very few and far between info and listening tests crossover designs out there.

i want this too be the last pair of speakers i buy for a long while. and don't want to tits it up.
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2009, 09:22 PM   #7
tinitus is offline tinitus  Europe
diyAudio Moderator R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Quote:
Originally posted by stuman


i want this too be the last pair of speakers i buy for a long while. and don't want to tits it up.

Well, the Illuminator looks special, but theres realy nothing new to it and technically its actually pretty old

As said, what you can achieve is not determined by the drivers, but by the complete design, mostly the crossover...the best is only made by the best

Take a look at how many design that has come off the hands of Troels, and theres probably many more not published, and how he is doing this, keeping it going on and on is really beyond me
Many may not agree, but I would say that Troels is THE top guy in designing highest quality DIY speakers...there isnt much competition anywhere
__________________
sometimes we know very little, and sometimes we know too much
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th February 2009, 12:48 PM   #8
sreten is offline sreten  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
Default Re: Seas Illuminator Speaker Designs...

Quote:
Originally posted by stuman
been saving for a while to put together the best speakers i can. looking at spending 1500 for the lot, cabinets drivers crossover ect. think i have found the drivers im going to use but cant find much on here about projects. is there better out there?
size wise i would like to keep it as compact as possible and will try to keep to 5.25" woofer driver.
Hi,

Given what your saying, look no further than : http://www.zaphaudio.com/ZD5.html

/sreten.
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th February 2009, 02:31 PM   #9
tinitus is offline tinitus  Europe
diyAudio Moderator R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
I usually take other peoples opinion with a grain of salt, but the comments(few) on Illuminator have all been that they think ScanSpeaks own Revelator sounds better still

If you are only after a good midwoofer take a look at Tangbands new underhung models, W5-1685 and W6-1721
They are supposed to be quite good
Well, I wouldnt be surprised if they are as good as Illuminator, or maybe even better....but hard to believe

But if you only want a good speaker, and dont have lots of experience with crossovers, your best chance is a well proven design...but stll, look at the complete design and not just the drivers
Attached Images
File Type: jpg w5-1685_3.jpg (26.3 KB, 321 views)
__________________
sometimes we know very little, and sometimes we know too much
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for 3way speaker designs. Ryan_Mc Multi-Way 10 23rd January 2009 01:55 PM
Seas L21 designs? Spasticteapot Multi-Way 1 1st August 2008 11:59 AM
looking for 3-way speaker designs rho Multi-Way 10 18th November 2007 03:32 PM
Curious about ZAPH's designs. Seas L18 and P18RNXP peter_m Multi-Way 136 9th August 2007 03:09 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:35 AM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2