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Old 27th October 2008, 06:01 PM   #11
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So do I, often from beautiful women overseas who want to be my friend or wife, and from these nice people in Nigeria who've asked me to help them with a spot of financial trouble they're having.
 
Old 27th October 2008, 06:48 PM   #12
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So do I, often from beautiful women overseas who want to be my friend or wife, and from these nice people in Nigeria who've asked me to help them with a spot of financial trouble they're having.
Hehehe Brett... you are fortunate as my mysterious PM's were not of that kind. But I know the kind of spam...give me your bank account and you wiil be happy ever after. Ha...

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Old 28th October 2008, 10:14 AM   #13
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i read somewhere a remark on a "dark brown" colour of the sound in the bd-design room at RMAF...

this certainly ain't a contribution of the oris swing speakers

they are as transparent and as neutral in this matter as they can be

and they will just show what's upstream

it's very easy to get blooming tonal colours out of them, one just has to play with the upstream components - an amp in particular. i've heard them with at least 20 different amps: SETs, digital, JFETs, PP and they will always very precisely express a nature of the amp.

bert (bd-design) and his buddies believe in what they present as the whole system is the best way to get a fully transparent and neutral reproduction but there are other ways to skin a cat, depending on a personal taste.
 
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i read somewhere a remark on a "dark brown" colour of the sound in the bd-design room at RMAF...

this certainly ain't a contribution of the oris swing speakers

they are as transparent and as neutral in this matter as they can be

and they will just show what's upstream

it's very easy to get blooming tonal colours out of them, one just has to play with the upstream components - an amp in particular. i've heard them with at least 20 different amps: SETs, digital, JFETs, PP and they will always very precisely express a nature of the amp.

bert (bd-design) and his buddies believe in what they present as the whole system is the best way to get a fully transparent and neutral reproduction but there are other ways to skin a cat, depending on a personal taste.

Hey Neighbour

Brownish? Not here, neither your place. But there can be so many reasons why a guy hear and define the tone as brownish coloured.

Was it the small small room?
Was it that the guy were standing/sitting too much off axis = roll off in the highs?
Was the Swings anyhow too close to backwall and corners, resulting in too much bloom in the bass region?
Is it an *ear* sensitivity variable we wittness? Unliniar ears?
Was the recording recorded with browniness inside?

These are just a few points where we as listeners may define the tone or signature of a given system.

My Swings are what I will call transparent and reflects the upstrem gear differenses extremely well with no tonal particular signature deriving from the speaker itself.

I always try to boil it down to:

Sounds as gentle as an electrostatic speaker, tonally balanced, can reproduce a needle falling onto a pillow, playing gentle with high resolution and can explode like a nitrogene bomb without sweatting and leave you knocked out on the floor.

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Old 28th October 2008, 12:07 PM   #15
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Default Fumbeling with uploding images and Colours

Hmmm....I'm very clever as I cannot find out to show you pictures here. Until the day I learn that, I will have to use a lousy bad trick ro insert a link where at least shomething is shown.



http://forum.bd-design.nl/index.php?id=15737

I have much better photoes of my gear.

The reason I want to show how I put up my Swings, is the discussions about toing in/out and hearing brownish colours.

If you look at the picture with my speakers present, you will find my camera plased where my ears are when listening.

The Swings shows excact liniarity from Fc up 22 KHz when toed like that and my ears are 1 meter above the floor.
I prefere to swing them towards each other as my bass section likes to be a bit closer to the corners because the backwall is 10 meters wide. But time alignment are kept intact 100%. Ah, well of course you can overdo it and no alignment at all.
I found them filling in the middle best like that. So I have density enough in the center of my soundstage.

Placing them vertically up-right and pulling them a bit together just means I have to sit a bit higher. There is no difference in SQ how much they are tilted either way. It's question of adjusting them to you listening height.

Now, true is they have a relatively small sweet spot due to partly beaming phenomenons i the heighs, but also the top horns depths. But the more fare away you listen to them the sweet spot grows. And as mentioned before I sit 5 meters from them. It's the Golden Ratio in my situation.

Moving away from the sweet spot leads you to hear much less treble information and room reflections are more audible.
Now we can talk about colour signatures as a fact. That be brownish or yellow.

I have treated my room a bit with absorbtion and deffusion and with curtains, table cloths and carpets beside furnitures an so on, it goes pretty OK. And with a little brain adjustment over time..well then pretty well it goes.

The Swings has no worse, no less artifacts or flaws than any other speaker principle. It's just different.

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Old 28th October 2008, 12:31 PM   #16
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you can open a photobucket account :

http://photobucket.com/

and upload your pictures. Then with copy and past, you can post them easy wherever you want.

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Old 28th October 2008, 01:07 PM   #17
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you can open a photobucket account :

http://photobucket.com/

and upload your pictures. Then with copy and past, you can post them easy wherever you want.

Angelo

Thanks Anegelo

I think it has to do with settings on my PC. I can see I have a pic sign there, but I'm unable to see it my self.

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Old 28th October 2008, 02:19 PM   #18
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Thanks Anegelo

I think it has to do with settings on my PC. I can see I have a pic sign there, but I'm unable to see it my self.

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you can upload files here in these formats : gif jpg png txt zip jpeg pdf

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you can upload files here in these formats : gif jpg png txt zip jpeg pdf

for pics - up to 1000x1000 pixels , overall up to 100K

Thanks Zen

I'm experimenting a bit. I think it is the 1000x1000 pixels that hurts.

I shall learn.

Cheers
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