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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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That gives me an idea - hiding a still in a speaker...
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.707 is usually good compromise, altho slightly lower often tends to work best in a typical listening room. Somewhere around .577 is also sometimes considered. .5 is critically damped. Under .5 is over damped. Anything much over .7 I usually refer to as over damped. andy2, nice wood floor btw. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Laputa
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Damping and Q or Quality factor have precise definitions.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Finland
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It seems to me that when a room and loudspeaker are considered as one system the differences between 0.5 and 0.707 Q are miniscule. Ever do a measurement of a typical listening room in the modal region? I can guarantee you will find several resonances with very high Q.
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Sorry pjpoes you are wrong.
Over damped means the response to a square wave shows rounded corners, which is what happens when the box is made big (assuming Qts<0.5). The amplitude response will also be droopy. Under damped means the response to a square wave begins to ripple, which is what happens when the box is made small. The amplitude response can be anything from showing a peak, through maximally flat, to just a tiny bit of droop. Critically damped is and has always been Q=0.5, this is as good a perfect rendition of a square wave as you will get. Under damped means some ripple of the square wave. With Q=0.707 although the amplitude response is maximally flat the square wave response shows a little peaking, it's slightly under damped.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Canandaigua, NY USA
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Right, flat response and critical damping don't occur at the same Q. All logical arguments aside, I've never liked sealed systems with the typical Q, but think they sound better up around 0.9- and I'm not a fan of thumpy bass. IMO, the best bet might be a Q around .5, but with equalization to correct the drooping response- assuming one has the power and the speaker can handle it.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
Line level EQ is another option, it always works, it never fails to improve matters to some degree. |
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