There called Bose MusicMonitors, There smaller than I said and lighter too, just decievingly heavy for there size:
4 13/16"H x 2 1/2"W x 4 13/16"D • (12.2 cm x 6.5 cm x 12.3 cm) • 1.3 lbs (0.6 kg)
http://www.bose.com/controller?even...omputer_gaming/musicmonitor/inthebox.jsp#tabs
There is always this issue of your brain being impressed by the sound of how small they are. Lots smaller than a minimus 7, which I owned once, and I'd have to say more impressive.
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4 13/16"H x 2 1/2"W x 4 13/16"D • (12.2 cm x 6.5 cm x 12.3 cm) • 1.3 lbs (0.6 kg)
http://www.bose.com/controller?even...omputer_gaming/musicmonitor/inthebox.jsp#tabs
There is always this issue of your brain being impressed by the sound of how small they are. Lots smaller than a minimus 7, which I owned once, and I'd have to say more impressive.
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how about a pair of either:
Aura NSW2 single drivers
or
HiVi B3S single drivers
coupled to a smallish 5-1/4 tang band neodymium sub with the linkwitz transform
keep them close to each other and you can cross them fairly high to avoid distorting the small drivers at high volumes as well as use them in a tiny box.
I could envision two fist-sized satellites (NSW2) and a 6 inch cube sub.
tune the low end to your pleasure.
Aura NSW2 single drivers
or
HiVi B3S single drivers
coupled to a smallish 5-1/4 tang band neodymium sub with the linkwitz transform
keep them close to each other and you can cross them fairly high to avoid distorting the small drivers at high volumes as well as use them in a tiny box.
I could envision two fist-sized satellites (NSW2) and a 6 inch cube sub.
tune the low end to your pleasure.
Zaph got a nice B3S design but even he does not recommend it without subwoofer.
I heard Bose Wave few years ago at a demo in an airport. At that time it was impressive. Can't believe what I'm hearing coming out of that tiny system. Obviously one need to hear them for hours before making judgements.
Apparently it's a horn/waveguide system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwWU3v2_Ug
I heard Bose Wave few years ago at a demo in an airport. At that time it was impressive. Can't believe what I'm hearing coming out of that tiny system. Obviously one need to hear them for hours before making judgements.
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Apparently it's a horn/waveguide system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwWU3v2_Ug
I have no experience of the Bose being discussed but as far as small speakers go these are the best I've heard:
http://www.genelec-ht.com/products/active-2-way/6020a/
They're frighteningly good for something that you can get a grip on with one hand but quite a bit more expensive than the Bose though.
I thought about DIYing a small speaker for surrounds but TBH I'm grabbing a pair of those. The benefits of DIY just don't weigh in this case.
http://www.genelec-ht.com/products/active-2-way/6020a/
They're frighteningly good for something that you can get a grip on with one hand but quite a bit more expensive than the Bose though.
I thought about DIYing a small speaker for surrounds but TBH I'm grabbing a pair of those. The benefits of DIY just don't weigh in this case.
Hi,
Same need, my next speaker will be such a small thing with big sound; I feel I will not get what I want if I use an extended range 4-5" driver, even not a classical mid-woofer + tweeter kind of combo; I guess a woofer/subwoofer going low in a small VB + 2" mid-tweeter will work the best.
I choosed a driver, kind of subwoofer working in 2.7 liters f-3 = 80hz:
http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1208_03/w5-876sd.htm
The mid-tweeter will be this one:
http://www.tymphany.com/files/products/pdf/830970.pdf
loaded in 0.2 liter:
Could have been one of the 2" TB...
Baffle width approx 15cm so a BS f-3 of approx 766Hz which will also be the x-over cutoff fr; simple 1st order filter + eventually RLC// to the bass driver if needed.
Same need, my next speaker will be such a small thing with big sound; I feel I will not get what I want if I use an extended range 4-5" driver, even not a classical mid-woofer + tweeter kind of combo; I guess a woofer/subwoofer going low in a small VB + 2" mid-tweeter will work the best.
I choosed a driver, kind of subwoofer working in 2.7 liters f-3 = 80hz:
http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1208_03/w5-876sd.htm
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
The mid-tweeter will be this one:
http://www.tymphany.com/files/products/pdf/830970.pdf
loaded in 0.2 liter:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Could have been one of the 2" TB...
Baffle width approx 15cm so a BS f-3 of approx 766Hz which will also be the x-over cutoff fr; simple 1st order filter + eventually RLC// to the bass driver if needed.
How far you are listening and what kind of room influcences the results significantly, and SPL counts because that is what the limits of small speakers are.theAnonymous1 said:I need suggestions on how to get BIG sound from little speakers. When I say "big sound" I mean a nice overall flat response with some decent bottom end (decent for a small speaker anyway). I'm not talking about getting high SPL from small speakers, just good sound.
I plan to build a small "boombox" that will mostly be used indoors in a small quiet environment, so I don't mind sacrificing SPL for larger sound.
Also, when I say small I mean small. I would like to keep the driver to 4" max with as small an enclosure as I can get away with.
What are my options? Tiny passive radiators? A small sealed box with active LT?
Driver choices (probably a TB driver)?
For example, the speaker in my avatar which uses a 3" driver was played in different rooms. In some rooms the bass is quite accaptable, in some lacking room modes, the sound is on the lean side. If the room modes are excited, then you feel the sound is fuller and more balanced.
ShinOBIWAN said:
Genelecs are ridiculous - ridiculously good. A couple of us guys built a MAME arcade cabinet with a PC inside. We were missing a speaker so we borrowed a couple of Genelec monitors. They were so punchy and dynamic that we couldn't help but laugh out loud when they were blasting the Golden Axe sounds. Gotta hear those tiny ones ...
crazyhub said:Hi,
Same need, my next speaker will be such a small thing with big sound; I feel I will not get what I want if I use an extended range 4-5" driver, even not a classical mid-woofer + tweeter kind of combo; I guess a woofer/subwoofer going low in a small VB + 2" mid-tweeter will work the best.
I choosed a driver, kind of subwoofer working in 2.7 liters f-3 = 80hz:
http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1208_03/w5-876sd.htm
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
The mid-tweeter will be this one:
http://www.tymphany.com/files/products/pdf/830970.pdf
loaded in 0.2 liter:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Could have been one of the 2" TB...
Baffle width approx 15cm so a BS f-3 of approx 766Hz which will also be the x-over cutoff fr; simple 1st order filter + eventually RLC// to the bass driver if needed.
Brilliant! I've been thinking of using the Tang Band W5-876SD together with the W2-852SF for some time now. Please share more of your ideas when you get the chance.
Did you consider these:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-872
I've not tried them, but I have a pair of these that I'm just starting to evaluate:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-874
Giving them enough baffle step will make them sound "big", however obviously then you run out of Xmax fast. A Qtc as high as 1 or more can also help since the peaking is similar to baffle step and the faster rolloff below helps reject LF that might otherwise waste available excursion.
Smooth, clean performance beyond Xmax is an important consideration.
It's about VD, how much air the driver can move.
Pete B.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-872
I've not tried them, but I have a pair of these that I'm just starting to evaluate:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-874
Giving them enough baffle step will make them sound "big", however obviously then you run out of Xmax fast. A Qtc as high as 1 or more can also help since the peaking is similar to baffle step and the faster rolloff below helps reject LF that might otherwise waste available excursion.
Smooth, clean performance beyond Xmax is an important consideration.
It's about VD, how much air the driver can move.
Pete B.
small speaker with good bass
Anonymous 1,
You might try what I developed in 2006,
http://www.sound.westhost.com/articles/pikku9.htm
Using a 4 inch woofer, this design requres a closed box of internal volume of about 800 cu. inches.
There is a GREAT sacrifice of sensitivity in this design to enable a f3 of 60 HZ.
If you are interested, I have one pair of the same woofer and tweeter of my original design.
-Pete
Anonymous 1,
You might try what I developed in 2006,
http://www.sound.westhost.com/articles/pikku9.htm
Using a 4 inch woofer, this design requres a closed box of internal volume of about 800 cu. inches.
There is a GREAT sacrifice of sensitivity in this design to enable a f3 of 60 HZ.
If you are interested, I have one pair of the same woofer and tweeter of my original design.
-Pete
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