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Old 12th September 2008, 05:04 PM   #21
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OK maybe I misunderstand, but to me, equalized bass doesn't equate to bigger sound. I've not heard Bose sound big unless we're talking the 800 series with some big 'ol bass bins. Maybe their new line array stuff, who knows?







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OK maybe I misunderstand, but to me, equalized bass doesn't equate to bigger sound.
Maybe that was my definition of big sound in regards to small speakers.

I didn't mean "big" as in "big sound stage", I meant "big" as in "wow, that speaker has a nice full sound for being so small. It sounds bigger than it really is".

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Old 12th September 2008, 05:27 PM   #23
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OK, I think I get it now. Kinda like when the Radio Shack Minimus 7 came out.

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Kinda like when the Radio Shack Minimus 7 came out.
Exactly, but smaller.
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Old 12th September 2008, 06:44 PM   #25
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There called Bose MusicMonitors, There smaller than I said and lighter too, just decievingly heavy for there size:

4 13/16"H x 2 1/2"W x 4 13/16"D (12.2 cm x 6.5 cm x 12.3 cm) 1.3 lbs (0.6 kg)

http://www.bose.com/controller?event...hebox.jsp#tabs

There is always this issue of your brain being impressed by the sound of how small they are. Lots smaller than a minimus 7, which I owned once, and I'd have to say more impressive.

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how about a pair of either:

Aura NSW2 single drivers
or
HiVi B3S single drivers

coupled to a smallish 5-1/4 tang band neodymium sub with the linkwitz transform

keep them close to each other and you can cross them fairly high to avoid distorting the small drivers at high volumes as well as use them in a tiny box.

I could envision two fist-sized satellites (NSW2) and a 6 inch cube sub.

tune the low end to your pleasure.
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Old 12th September 2008, 09:35 PM   #27
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Zaph got a nice B3S design but even he does not recommend it without subwoofer.

I heard Bose Wave few years ago at a demo in an airport. At that time it was impressive. Can't believe what I'm hearing coming out of that tiny system. Obviously one need to hear them for hours before making judgements.

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Apparently it's a horn/waveguide system

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwWU3v2_Ug
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Old 12th September 2008, 10:05 PM   #28
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I have no experience of the Bose being discussed but as far as small speakers go these are the best I've heard:

http://www.genelec-ht.com/products/active-2-way/6020a/

They're frighteningly good for something that you can get a grip on with one hand but quite a bit more expensive than the Bose though.

I thought about DIYing a small speaker for surrounds but TBH I'm grabbing a pair of those. The benefits of DIY just don't weigh in this case.
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Old 12th September 2008, 11:07 PM   #29
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Hi,

Same need, my next speaker will be such a small thing with big sound; I feel I will not get what I want if I use an extended range 4-5" driver, even not a classical mid-woofer + tweeter kind of combo; I guess a woofer/subwoofer going low in a small VB + 2" mid-tweeter will work the best.
I choosed a driver, kind of subwoofer working in 2.7 liters f-3 = 80hz:
http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1208_03/w5-876sd.htm
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The mid-tweeter will be this one:
http://www.tymphany.com/files/products/pdf/830970.pdf
loaded in 0.2 liter:
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Could have been one of the 2" TB...
Baffle width approx 15cm so a BS f-3 of approx 766Hz which will also be the x-over cutoff fr; simple 1st order filter + eventually RLC// to the bass driver if needed.
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I need suggestions on how to get BIG sound from little speakers. When I say "big sound" I mean a nice overall flat response with some decent bottom end (decent for a small speaker anyway). I'm not talking about getting high SPL from small speakers, just good sound.

I plan to build a small "boombox" that will mostly be used indoors in a small quiet environment, so I don't mind sacrificing SPL for larger sound.

Also, when I say small I mean small. I would like to keep the driver to 4" max with as small an enclosure as I can get away with.

What are my options? Tiny passive radiators? A small sealed box with active LT?

Driver choices (probably a TB driver)?

How far you are listening and what kind of room influcences the results significantly, and SPL counts because that is what the limits of small speakers are.

For example, the speaker in my avatar which uses a 3" driver was played in different rooms. In some rooms the bass is quite accaptable, in some lacking room modes, the sound is on the lean side. If the room modes are excited, then you feel the sound is fuller and more balanced.
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