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Old 11th September 2008, 04:21 PM   #1
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Default fixing a crack in NS-10M monitor woofer

I just got a nice pair of Yamaha NS-10M studio monitors,
however one of the monitors has a small crack (about 10mm, half moon shaped) placed in the middle between the center cone and the ring surrounding the woofer.

- What would be the best way to fix it with minimal damage to frequency response and clarity of sound ?

- Will leaving it like this would be the best solution (rather than gluing it ?)

- If gluing is the recommended solution, which technique is the best ?

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Old 11th September 2008, 04:54 PM   #2
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If it's a paper cone, use clear nail polish or wood glue. Use sparingly and try to mesh the cone together while applying. Nail polish will dry in a few minutes, wood glue should be left a day.
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Best fix is to use them with the damage Those speakers are just for monitoring the average bad sounding speakers the majority of listeners has at home.

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Old 12th September 2008, 07:55 AM   #4
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Those speakers are just for monitoring the average bad sounding speakers.

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Interesting that they (NS-10M's) were recently recognized by the US recording industry, with a 2007 technical GRAMMY, must say they worth something more positive than what you imply. I'm sure they had some proper in-house engineering, including above average quality components and reliability to boot. Possibly this is just your view of all studio near field monitors or is it just brand specific.

http://www.studioreviews.com/01-12-07-yamaha.htm
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infinia, it's just specific to that model (and the original one). Another example for such speakers are the good old Auratones. Talk to an audio engineer. Or even better look at the frequency response.

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Talk to an audio engineer.
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Don't you mean Recording Engineer? An audio engineer is too broad a field as there would be no consensus at all just unfounded opinions.

These monitor's are well known to have really flat response (clinical), so much in fact that a lot of engineer's don't care for the sound as they are used to a more warmer tone (i.e. speakers with some BSC usually). Most non pro's don't know how to use them anyway (near-field only). These ubiquitous monitors are the defacto standard. Chances are that 70-80% of pop music has been mixed with these.
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These monitor's are well known to have really flat response (clinical)
Show me I had to work with those speakers a couple of years. Look at Klein + Hummel or ME-Geithain. That's flat. The NS-10s aren't.

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P.S. Googled frequency response:

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Graphs are meaningless unless measurement methology are included!
I think the response you culled from google, just shows what I was tryng to explain about BSC or lack thereof and listening setups. I would pick the response of the NS-10 as it shows a smooth LF rolloff.
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Then show me your measurements. You don't know what you're talking about. Smooth rolloff for a nearfield monitor? The NS-10s are fine to make a mix compatible with the average listening equipment and environment found on the consumer side. Nothing more. No high end voodoo magic. Talk to an audio engineer but you probably won't believe him because you don't believe me. So this discussion is pointless.

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You don't know what you're talking about. Smooth rolloff for a nearfield monitor? Best, Markus
"Ich bin ein audio engineer"
Which of my statements is false.
Why don't you google NS-10s. I really have no personal preferences to them, just making a point that they are indeed studio reference monitors, and would mostly would sound like cr*p if used incorrectly. BTW It doesn't help to be personally insulting.
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