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Old 21st August 2008, 01:51 AM   #1
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i would like to build my 1st folded horn enclosures. i like the size & floor space of the Belles. are there any sources recommended for plans i could see or buy? i have looked for a cross section on the Belles or K horns but not found. any folded horn idea is fine for me. the driver will be 12" dynaudios i have in inventory. i will stack a 26" ribbon next to it along with a vertical line source of 6" cone drivers as mid bass couplers possibly di pole back less. all will be triamped with a mix of triode pentode and beam power amps. active external xovers too.

i am pretty good with wood, just need help with getting a design.
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Old 21st November 2009, 08:59 PM   #2
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i have a set of plans for Belle, LaScala and K-horn.
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Old 21st November 2009, 11:11 PM   #3
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Default plans for folded horns

ok Barackuda - how do we connect?
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Old 22nd November 2009, 04:24 AM   #4
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i would like to build my 1st folded horn enclosures. i like the size & floor space of the Belles. thx!
Hi, if you are thinking of building some Belle's you must check out these two outstanding build threads:

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You will also find links to CAD and .pdf Belle plans as well there...

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the driver will be 12" dynaudios i have in inventory.
Simply slapping a driver you have on hand into a folded FLH is guaranteed to produce far less than optimum results. Get some of the Klipsch units secondhand or as replacement spares or some of the Crites units.
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Old 22nd November 2009, 02:03 PM   #6
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thx Sklimek - nice pics but i didn't see the CAD or .pdf plans.
where in AZ? i am in Snottsdale ;^))

the Dynaudios are great drivers. and they're on hand. all the Klipsch OEM used are spendy. i have them in tuned ports now and the flat response is amazing. But my NHT dual 12" bass bins with 250 w. class G mono amps are the best low end drivers i have ever heard. in my home theater they have seen nothing they can't handle.
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Hi capt.mike, I have to agree with Brett in that if you build the Belle's to plan they should follow the intended driver.

The Crites CW1526 was created as a replacement for the 15" driver for the Klipschorn/Belle and has better specs. In addition they are not that expensive:

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Search the Klipsch forums using 'formica' who posted them and Belle plans' they are there for the downloading in another thread - just use the search menu.

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Old 22nd November 2009, 02:47 PM   #8
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cool. thx.
i'll do a jig that allows the 12" driver temporarily and get the 15" units whenever i can get a deal later.
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Old 22nd November 2009, 05:55 PM   #9
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the Dynaudios are great drivers. and they're on hand. all the Klipsch OEM used are spendy. i have them in tuned ports now and the flat response is amazing. But my NHT dual 12" bass bins with 250 w. class G mono amps are the best low end drivers i have ever heard. in my home theater they have seen nothing they can't handle.
That's all irrelevant. A horn is not a direct radiator box and is much more sensitive to driver parameters than a DR box. Have you priced the Klipsch? When I thought I had a failed K33 in my Khorns I asked for a price here and they were very, very reasonable. Hell the Crites NEW are $250/pr.
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Personally, I'd ditch your MF and HF ideas as it sounds like a dogs breakfast, build the Parnham mid horn and buy/build (Pi for buy, Arai for build) a decent HF horn with a good driver like a B&C DE250.
I'd also seriously think about a riser base for the Belle and add the DJK ported mod for LaScalas.
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Old 23rd November 2009, 02:53 PM   #10
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i just don't like the sound of mid freq horns. and prefer a line source for high freq.
the base stand for the belle size cabinent is a good idea, get it up off the floor some.
i can experiment - i might scale the bass horn down to fit a 12" driver just to see what happens.
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