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Old 2nd October 2009, 06:38 PM   #871
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Old 4th December 2013, 01:28 AM   #872
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Originally Posted by gedlee View Post
I live very near Roush and have done some things with them. I saw a kit Ford GT there that looked far better made than the real Ford GT. They said it was made in South Africa. It was gorgeous. As an ex-car engineer (I did a lot with engine tuning) I can tell you that the kit was a better car.
Having worked in engineering for close to two decades, I have a cynical view of the whole process. In particular, I notice that people that do good work are often punished for it. Basically this is because good engineering requires taking risks, but corporations are very risk averse. So you end up with homogenous design. (Just look at all the bland cars that came out of Detroit, until the threat of bankruptcy shook things up.)

I was listening to the Adam Carolla podcast today, and his guest mentioned owning a "one off" Ford GT40. And while reading about the designer of the car, it sounds like his career went something like this:

1) Works at Ford for close to twenty years, and contributed to production cars like the Ford Thunderbird
2) Had a chance to work on an iconic car, the Ford GT40, which was well received
3) After making a name for himself with the Ford GT40, was banished to work on boring stuff like side view mirrors
4) After a couple of years of this was either fired or quit

In other words, "no good deed goes unpunished."

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Old 4th December 2013, 05:13 PM   #873
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I think that it can be complicated. Good engineering does not always sell, that's hardly the companies fault. I think that there is likely more to the story above. Mercedes, Honda, etc. are well engineered cars, but completely different markets. Mercedes fell on its face when it tried to sell into Honda's market and Honda has not done well in Mercedes market. Toyota did however.

Everyone knows that "taking risks" can pay-off, but it can also be a total bust. My "risk taking" adventure was a bust, but the far more conservative one was much more successful. But of course the low risk venture had less rewards. It's all a gamble, a game if you will. Sometimes you get the cards and sometimes you don't. How well you play poker is a secondary issue.
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