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Old 19th March 2003, 06:06 PM   #1
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Anyone knows where can I find some information on building nearfield and farfield speakers that are suitable for recording studio use?

I think they must have a colorless, clear and detailed sound. Not beaultiful, colored sound as hifi speakers, but full frequency response (30 Hz-20Khz) and a very good crossover!

Thanks for any info!
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Old 20th March 2003, 09:29 PM   #2
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Adire Audio Kit81M

... Is all I know of that is specifically designed for nearfield, while some other speakers (like coaxial or full range) also happen to be good, but maybe not as accurate. I'm in the same boat looking for a studio monitor, and I think I will probably end up with the Adire, though I'm afraid I can't seem to find ANY feedback on it.
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Old 21st March 2003, 02:46 AM   #3
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Default Thanks a lot!

Thanks...

It looks to be serious people!

I´m already considering the HE 12.1...

I want HUGE monitors!

I think it´s worthy to TRY!
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Old 21st March 2003, 04:11 AM   #4
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You say you will attempt to match a 8 inches driver (worse a 12 inches one...) with an 1 inch tweeter and you don't want "Hi-Fi coloured speakers "(maybe we don't agree on what a real hi-fidelity speaker should be here...). If you haven't heard about cone breakup modes, you will experience them. Believe me, I have made the mistake: even top quality woofers will colorate from around maybe 300Hz for a 12" and 500Hz maximum for a 8" because cone material isn't infinitely rigid.

I understand your willings to go full range fro studio monitors. And I think this is basically a good idea.

But read this.

Big speakers are good at making big moving of air i.e. making powerful and low bass, and not as good in changing direction frequently i.e mid/high.

If you want my advice, try not to go larger than 6" (hint... some serious studio monitors uses 4 1/2"). You could be surprised what a well designed and aligned cabinet with a 6" mid/woofer can do for you. And from there, if you want real deep bass, go with a 10-12" subwoofer or build three ways...

Unfortunately, no real-world speaker I know do 6 octaves correctly. (ok, some "full-ranges" do it but there are some important drawbacks...) As a rule of thumb, count on a 10:1 ratio between the highest and the lowest frequency you can ask to your loudspeaker (i.e 20-200Hz or 200Hz-2kHz). Maybe a little more with today's mid/woofers.

One more time, if you want to know precisely what's on your take or mix, a 12"/1" combo is a bad match. In this world of music, believe half of what you read (less if it's full of numbers) and fully trust your ears!
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Old 21st March 2003, 08:44 PM   #5
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I´ve seen some Great JBL speakers that was like a refrigerator. It had the most trasparent sound I´ve ever heard. I just want something like this!

But there are U$60.000 HiFi speakers that colour the sound in a pleasant way but this is just not what I want. They are great speakers, but it´s not constructed for studio monitors. I just don´t know technically, what´s the difference, but this is not the same, I can say.

I´ll check the JBL model and let you know. It has 12" or 15" woofer for sure!

It´s a vintage type, I think...
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Old 22nd March 2003, 04:58 AM   #6
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Are you sure those big JBLs are not 3 ways? Typical JBL "monitors" with 10 - 15" are woofer/5" mid/1" dome setups...

Anyway, whatever I think, if you believe in what you think, go for it: sucess or fail, you will certainly learn from that road to ultimate DIY sound.

Good luck!
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Old 22nd March 2003, 06:32 AM   #7
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If it was a vintage two-way type then it could have been a 4425 (10") or a 4430 (15") or even the 2.5 way 4435 (with two 15" woofers).

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Old 22nd March 2003, 06:44 AM   #8
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get the drive units and build some boxes, then see if you can find a 3-way stereo electronic crossover and some big amps.......
then you are in the right direction.....!!!!
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Old 22nd March 2003, 01:38 PM   #9
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Yes! I think it´s the 4435!
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Old 22nd March 2003, 02:06 PM   #10
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Default ATC monitors...

ATCs are the kind of serious things I was talking about higher in the thread... Easily in my top 5 studio monitor manufacturer... Real marvels! THESE ROCKS !!! with finesse...
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