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Old 16th July 2008, 07:47 AM   #1
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Default Magnetar. Openly Baffled ?

I saw no reason for Magnetar to be banned, though I do not read all the threads.

Maybe the Moderators can explain what it was that Magnetar PUBLISHED on this forum which broke 'our' rules.

Questions ?

Cheers ........ Graham.

( I wonder how many of us would be left here if diyAudio moderators deemed that PRIVATE use of everyday 'industrial' language was reason for public excommunication. )
 
Old 16th July 2008, 08:30 AM   #2
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I think of myself as an easy going guy and I could see no reason to ban Magnetar. I have read most of his posts over the last few years. Others have certainly used far more colourful and insulting language in posts to the point where their comments really left a nasty taste in the mouth. I never felt this with Magnetar. I come from the old school that believes respect has to be earned by behaviour and deed and not a title before or after a name. Most people here have something to offer - can't we leave it at that?
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Old 16th July 2008, 09:34 AM   #3
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most of the viewers having long ago gotten the damn point
and what was it? I mean "the point"

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I've never seen anyone beat a dead horse, beat again, and then beat it some more just for good measure like he did.
a dead horse? who is dead (horse)?

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Old 16th July 2008, 09:43 AM   #4
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and what was it? I mean "the point"



a dead horse? who is dead (horse)?

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Gah you got me before I thought better of being involved in this thread and deleted my post Beating a dead horse is a phrase refering to the fact that it is futile to beat a dead horse to get more work out it or something like that. As for answering what was "the point", I'll not be the one to beat that dead horse and now exit from this thread forever...
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Old 16th July 2008, 10:24 AM   #5
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Magnetar was banned for messing with a seemingly untouchable immortal around these parts. This occurrence took place in that person's well-known thread.. Repeatedly questioning them with a certain "tone" after being ignored and referred to as "a farce" (although that bit of name calling from the obviously more authoritative member seems to have been mysteriously deleted from the thread), Magnetar persistently referred to this individual as "the manufacture" in his last several posts (instead of "Dr", as he admittedly prefers), and lastly.. a "malignant narcissist", which I actually thought was an amusingly fitting description. Rather than being moved to "Texas", it seems as though the majority of these posts have simply been deleted.

Just before this took place, Magnetar was also recently placed in the "sin bin" for a week for "insulting a moderator and threatening to attack the forum", which took place in his own thread (New Reference - SG-OB "Stargate Open Baffle). The initial cause for concern was when certain posts from within the last few hours (or minutes?) started disappearing. One of those posts was Magnetar's response to my question regarding T-S parameters for the 21" woofer used in his latest build, which actually contained the corresponding parameters that he obtained himself, as well as other bits of info that was valuable to me. Unlike the majority of the supposed "rule offending" posts that keep disappearing to nowhere lately, this particular post surprisingly still resides in "Texas" (On a side note, I for one, actually find the title of this section of the forum rather ignorant and offensive, for obvious reasons, but let's not get into that again). As it turns out, this is the statement within his reply to my post that initially caused all the fuss, which later led to his placement in the sin bin:

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What most people do (like geddle in his Pumma) is they attenuate the mid frequencies to get treble out of their design. What this does is it RAISES the distortion of the treble - this is the area of 'break up' so it is quite frankly stupid if you can afford to use a separate tweeter that will keep up.
..At the very start, I don't think even Magnetar himself was initially aware of the cause for removal of the post, and neither was I. I, too, was under the impression that this must have been provoked by the "geddle in his Pumma" bit:

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They are deleting parts of it for spelling errors so I say delete it all
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It's not about spelling errors, its about how we refer to each other.
We don't delete threads on request.


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I can delete the whole database marl, will that work for you?
..So there you have it.
There could have been some negative communication between Magnetar and a moderator during a portion of this, but of course, there's no way to know for sure:

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Magnetar binned for a week for insulting a moderator and threatening to attack the forum

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Upon Magnetar's return a few days ago, he was quickly back to his thread and seemingly in good spirits, polite and helpful as usual. Next thing you know..

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Magnetar is banned for repeated abuse of forum rules regarding personal attacks and making threats to a moderator.
..Seems like a bunch of BS to me. I think it's safe to assume that the almighty omnipotence that a certain rather arrogant individual seems to carry around this forum can't be messed with. Anyone who attempts to question his doctrine or attempts to display their dusgust towards this person's self-portrayal and attitude towards other members will only be bullied by moderators of this forum. The reason for this? I have no idea. Promoting popularity of the forum maybe? And no need to muck up one of the most popular threads on this website.. that's up to the obvious Supreme Being of this forum. Wouldn't surprise me the least bit if constant communication between this individual and moderators took place, in regards to what gets removed from his thread, as well as specific posts in other people's threads that he just so happens not to like (posts being deleted upon request). After all, moderators were obviously contacted before the start of his most popular thread.

Accusations? Not really, but label it however you wish. I REALLY hope I'm completely wrong here. On the other hand, like I said, I USUALLY keep my mouth shut, just like so many other members around here have to do. Otherwise, this forum would be just like any other. Magnetar couldn't ever seem to do that though. And he DID beat the hell out of a dead horse like no other. There were times that I found his ongoing resentment towards Geddes a little odd. I never thought that much of it though. Afterall, that guy often seems to get in this mood where he willingly portrays himself as the most self-conceited and arrogant prick I've ever seen. Name calling? No, not at all.. I said he portrays himself to be that way. Big difference.

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Derogatory arrogance isn't 'acceptable' if the person's highly intelligent any more than a bully being in better shape is justification for beating up the fat kid in a lunch room.
..Quoted from part of the most recent bit of related discussion in the "Beyond the Ariel" thread.
 
Old 16th July 2008, 10:41 AM   #6
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Hi BHTX,

Mmmm.

I did notice things disappearing from Magnetar's Stargate thread after I had read them, without me noticing anything ??? at all wrong with them.

Also it seems that because of uncomfortable questions and information dissemination leading to 'handbags at dawn' bickering in a thread, any member can be denied access to the entire forum.

Sad, because we all lose without Magnetar's experience and inspiring contributions.

Cheers ...... Graham.
 
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well, he may reregister with different username.
I hope he will do it, and continue to share his interesting projects with us. anyone who was offended could ignore him. or this forums' ignore user function doesn't work?
 
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Old 16th July 2008, 02:29 PM   #9
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Guys, please take a look here for the reasons:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...29#post1562029

Its never nice to ban a member so the decision is never taken lightly and all moderators consulted to come to the same conclusion.
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well, he may reregister with different username.
I hope he will do it, and continue to share his interesting projects with us. anyone who was offended could ignore him. or this forums' ignore user function doesn't work?
A new user name doesn't wipe the slate clean I'm afraid. Re-registering whilst banned is against the rules and will simply result in that person being banned again.

Please understand that what Magnetar said and did wasn't trivial. He was abusive and threatening towards a moderator, ignored moderator warnings, was abusive to another forum member and threatened to harm the forum itself.
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