Big In Japan

Salas · 3rd July 2008, 11:18 PM

Pinging cdwitmer.

Here is a thread for knowing more about Japanese speaker industry. Both historically, currently, and technically. Who's BIG IN JAPAN?
Why we mainly know old Yamaha monitors and American TAD for Pioneer? Who was, is, the Japanese B&W? Or JJBL? Why we know mainly Fostex and exotic full rangers from Japan or extreme compression drivers? Where are the old Technics and Akai extensive lines? Many things not in order for the rest of the world's audio knowledge about speakers in Japan. Why Tannoy or Altec are legends there? Is there any local legend of equal or higher status? What is the mentality of choosing expensive speakers in Tokyo or Yokohama? How is DIY going on there? Are multiways being build by diyers? Local non horns or non FRs are any interesting and available in the high price market? Is there a Japanese Avalon, or Wilson? Why an insensitive BBC LS3/5A is treasured there, in the land of SET & horn bin FR?
Japanese members or other learned people please enlighten us...

Iain McNeill · 4th July 2008, 05:03 AM

your excellent question is un-answerable. Too vague I fear.

We want to know the best speaker and the state of the art and who is best in class.

But for what? small room bookcase, large room floor stander, full range, 3 way, bohemoth horn, line array?

there are many people working on parts of the puzzle. Nobody has the holy grail - I thought it was proven that sang-real never existed.

Now if you want to get specific, Tang-Band has some nice product. I'm flirting with W3-1364 right now and I'm getting chills up the spine and hairs standing which is good right?

CLS · 4th July 2008, 05:53 AM

Tang Band is not a Japanese company.

Its headquater is in Taiwan.

http://www.tb-speaker.com/tbc.htm

Salas · 4th July 2008, 05:55 AM

Thank you Iain. But this is not a technical thread. Its about sketching historically and culturally the loudspeaker industry of Japan. TB is Taiwanese. Post above beat me in to that.

CLS · 4th July 2008, 06:03 AM

How about Diatone?

http://diatone.mee.co.jp/h/index.html

Iain McNeill · 4th July 2008, 06:04 AM

good luck in your search. I think I can learn much.

Salas · 4th July 2008, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CLS
How about Diatone?

http://diatone.mee.co.jp/h/index.html

Such a quality maker and I never seen it exporting and being famous in Europe, like Luxman or Sansui for instance. Maybe its strong in Taiwan too? Why not marketing heavily and competing internationally with Japanese Speakers as the Japanese electronics did? Is Diatone related to Mitsubishi?

CLS · 4th July 2008, 07:29 AM

No, it's not a "strong" brand in Taiwan as far as I know. I just happened to see it on the internet, and it happened to be connected to this topic.

BTW · 4th July 2008, 08:00 AM

Some Japanese speakers that have impressed me :

1. Stax the maker of ESL headphones made some excellent ESL spks the F81... Even Harry Pearson awarded the Stax a couple of stars in his Editor's choice... IIRC The Stax F81 is really one of the sweetest ESL spks I've heard... the biggest problem was their low efficiency and inability to play loud.

2. Yamaha NS1000, even by today standards very nice spks.

3. Sony Esprit monitors... I heard these flat drivers at a Audio Exhibition.... Very impressive sounding spks.

graaf · 4th July 2008, 08:38 AM

3rd July 2008, 11:18 PM	#1
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Big In Japan Pinging cdwitmer. Here is a thread for knowing more about Japanese speaker industry. Both historically, currently, and technically. Who's BIG IN JAPAN? Why we mainly know old Yamaha monitors and American TAD for Pioneer? Who was, is, the Japanese B&W? Or JJBL? Why we know mainly Fostex and exotic full rangers from Japan or extreme compression drivers? Where are the old Technics and Akai extensive lines? Many things not in order for the rest of the world's audio knowledge about speakers in Japan. Why Tannoy or Altec are legends there? Is there any local legend of equal or higher status? What is the mentality of choosing expensive speakers in Tokyo or Yokohama? How is DIY going on there? Are multiways being build by diyers? Local non horns or non FRs are any interesting and available in the high price market? Is there a Japanese Avalon, or Wilson? Why an insensitive BBC LS3/5A is treasured there, in the land of SET & horn bin FR? Japanese members or other learned people please enlighten us...

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4th July 2008, 05:03 AM	#2
Iain McNeill diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, California	your excellent question is un-answerable. Too vague I fear. We want to know the best speaker and the state of the art and who is best in class. But for what? small room bookcase, large room floor stander, full range, 3 way, bohemoth horn, line array? there are many people working on parts of the puzzle. Nobody has the holy grail - I thought it was proven that sang-real never existed. Now if you want to get specific, Tang-Band has some nice product. I'm flirting with W3-1364 right now and I'm getting chills up the spine and hairs standing which is good right?

4th July 2008, 05:53 AM	#3
CLS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Taiwan	Tang Band is not a Japanese company. Its headquater is in Taiwan. http://www.tb-speaker.com/tbc.htm

4th July 2008, 05:55 AM	#4
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Thank you Iain. But this is not a technical thread. Its about sketching historically and culturally the loudspeaker industry of Japan. TB is Taiwanese. Post above beat me in to that.

4th July 2008, 06:03 AM	#5
CLS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Taiwan	How about Diatone? http://diatone.mee.co.jp/h/index.html

4th July 2008, 06:04 AM	#6
Iain McNeill diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Cruz, California	good luck in your search. I think I can learn much.

4th July 2008, 07:29 AM	#8
CLS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Taiwan	No, it's not a "strong" brand in Taiwan as far as I know. I just happened to see it on the internet, and it happened to be connected to this topic.

4th July 2008, 08:00 AM	#9
BTW diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore	Some Japanese speakers that have impressed me : 1. Stax the maker of ESL headphones made some excellent ESL spks the F81... Even Harry Pearson awarded the Stax a couple of stars in his Editor's choice... IIRC The Stax F81 is really one of the sweetest ESL spks I've heard... the biggest problem was their low efficiency and inability to play loud. 2. Yamaha NS1000, even by today standards very nice spks. 3. Sony Esprit monitors... I heard these flat drivers at a Audio Exhibition.... Very impressive sounding spks.

4th July 2008, 08:38 AM	#10
graaf diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007	good start for those interested in "sketching historically and culturally the loudspeaker industry of Japan": http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/ http://www.audio-heritage.jp/ my subjective selection: http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/s-f1-c.htm http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/apm-6.htm http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/sb-rx70.htm http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/sb-10000.htm http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/gs-1.htm http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/ss-gr1.html http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/afp1000.html from the other site: http://www.audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/speaker/gf-1.html amazing things, "breakthroughs" of Avalons and Wilsons are laughable in comparison best, graaf

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