Loudspeakers and room as a system

[rob g]

Originally Posted by Pano

Test your center image with mono recordings. Simple. I happen to like the sound of 2 channel phantom mono better than single speaker, FWIW.

Me too. The phantom source from the Linkwitz Pluto 2.1's is far more believable than any box sitting between the speakers. Actually it is the best phantom centre I have ever heard, from many, many speakers. This and pin sharp imaging.

Centre speakers are essential if you have listeners sitting way off axis. Certainly they are less problematic in larger rooms where they are less identifiable as a seperate source.

I never hear twin mono with Pluto 2.1, just rock solid central image.
I have heard twin mono effects with other speakers, sometimes frequency dependent.
Also I always have to check if the TV sound is still on when I watch a movie with the Pluto's.

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Hi,

Have you tried 3 Plutos? (If you don't like 'any box'... with one of them at the center of course. )

[Elias]

Originally Posted by CLS

Hi,

Have you tried 3 Plutos? (If you don't like 'any box'... with one of them at the center of course. )

How about 3 'Plutos' integrated as one, and vector steered with a matrix ?


- Elias

[Elias]

I guess this is a correct thread to disscuss about flooder, without the fear of moderator's thread split

This week I had good experience with other type of a flooder ! In the office I have small table top speakers and neccessarely they are placed relatively close less than 1 m. Initially they were placed in conventional way facing the listener and lifted at the ear level. The table is placed against a wall corner. The sound is very sensitive of listener placement which in on office environment cannot be guaranteed to be optimal most of the time. The stereo interference field kills the enjoyment totally.

Then I flooded the speakers by turning them facing ceiling, and after adjusting treble level by tone control to compensate the off axis there was an immediate improvement of the stereo sensation. They are still placed at the ear level, and less than 1 m distance. The spaciousness increased dramatically, no longer the sound comes from the small boxes but appears coming far away behind the front wall. Nice !

- Elias

[Helmuth]

Originally Posted by Elias

I guess this is a correct thread to disscuss about flooder, without the fear of moderator's thread split

This week I had good experience with other type of a flooder ! In the office I have small table top speakers and neccessarely they are placed relatively close less than 1 m. Initially they were placed in conventional way facing the listener and lifted at the ear level. The table is placed against a wall corner. The sound is very sensitive of listener placement which in on office environment cannot be guaranteed to be optimal most of the time. The stereo interference field kills the enjoyment totally.

Then I flooded the speakers by turning them facing ceiling, and after adjusting treble level by tone control to compensate the off axis there was an immediate improvement of the stereo sensation. They are still placed at the ear level, and less than 1 m distance. The spaciousness increased dramatically, no longer the sound comes from the small boxes but appears coming far away behind the front wall. Nice !

- Elias

Place them now speakers towards wall. so the wall becomes the radiating area.

[Elias]

Originally Posted by Helmuth

Place them now speakers towards wall. so the wall becomes the radiating area.

That is another concept
Stereophonic Sound from a Single Loudspeaker

[Helmuth]

Something like this.

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