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Old 24th April 2010, 04:40 AM   #1421
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The variation between these 2 isn't bad at all (to me, but I don't have heaps of experience).

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That's after eqing.

But the break up is not as advertised. Oh well. Just something else to work around. That is what I was looking for--smooth break up region. According to Eminence's graph, this was in the upper echelon.

My next build will probably be with B&C, JBL, or AE from what I've seen so far. I just didn't want to spend so much money on just my second design ever.

Thanks Dr. Geddes. Back to the regularly scheduled program.

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Old 24th April 2010, 05:54 AM   #1422
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My next build will probably be with B&C, JBL, or AE from what I've seen so far.

Thanks Dr. Geddes. Back to the regularly scheduled program.

Dan
Don't expect much. I, like you, look specifically at this region for the exact reasons that you mentioned. Everyones data here is "optomistic" and when I measure the real thing its almost always like the situation that you have. I will say that the Eminence does look worse than what I am used to, but none of the compnaies that you mentioned are all that much better and none of them is head and shoulders better than another.
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Agreed.

And also remember that as bad as your driver measurements look - compared to what you hoped for - your room measurements will look just as bad.

Does not mean they aren't accurate, they just aren't the pretty graphs you see salesman publish.
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Old 24th April 2010, 02:56 PM   #1424
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And also remember that ... your room measurements will look just as bad.
IMO, my room measurements look much better than the individual drivers look. But I don't use cardiods - that must be the reason.
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And they might look even better if you would come over to the dark side and use a cardioid
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Old 25th April 2010, 12:46 AM   #1426
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No Cardiod is a grey area, the drak side is the belief that all measurements are a waste of time - all you need are your ears! Cardiod vs omni, thats a negligable difference by comparison.
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Oh the Dark Side is much darker than that, they believe that measurements leads to worse sound and should be banned. You cannot measure music, because if you could then we should be able to measure the "huge" differences between audio cables and other magical things.....


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Old 25th April 2010, 10:09 PM   #1428
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StigErik - your post belongs over on the "cable" thread. It's hilarious over there.
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I know...... seems like all audio forums have these incredible cable threads, and there's no cure invented yet!
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Folks,

And we have come full circle.

We are back at fixing the room, instead of fixing the source of the problems, that is the speaker.

So, how about we get back to fixing the speaker?
then how about this one:
200 x 2" drivers What to do?

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