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Old 4th April 2010, 05:59 PM   #1251
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Could you be more specific? Its hard to dispute a claim that is so general.
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I actually wish more people would push for multi channel to happen. Stereo will always be here though d/t portable music--again a good thing for various reasons (one being financial).

I went and tried some out multi channel the other day. If the speakers weren't so terrible, you can see where it would have its advantages. Too bad there was no center channel.

A good stereo set up beats a bad multi channel in my book and there is plenty available for it.

This question would be for Dr. Geddes or Markus: If you had narrow and constant directivity speakers in a multichannel set up, would you still want the mains to cross in front of the listener like you recommend for stereo? Or should they be placed to reduce lateral reflections?

Dr. Geddes, would you recommend your speakers for surround sound? Center channel? or no center channel?

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I actually wish more people would push for multi channel to happen. Stereo will always be here though d/t portable music--again a good thing for various reasons (one being financial).

A good stereo set up beats a bad multi channel in my book and there is plenty available for it.
I prefer mono for portable music (other than headphone). You're very unlikely to be in an environment where stereo or multi-channel can be used to advantage. Better put the money into one good mono speaker instead of two average stereo speakers.

As for multi-channel, I'm all for it too as long as the additional speakers (and channels if used) are equal quality, if not equal power handling, to the "main" speakers. Just as multiple subs make it easier to get good bass in a room due to flexibility of positioning, multiple full-range speakers make it easier to tame less than ideal rooms.
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I actually wish more people would push for multi channel to happen.
It already happened. In case you did not noticed. Many of the major labels released a few "test the market" multichannel Disks (SACD, DVD, even MC DTS CD).

I attended more than a few of the demos as well and was generally left bewildered by the sonic perspective selected by the engineers and not alone in this.

The paying public at large ignored this (oh no - another quadro) gimmick despite now often owning 5.1 Systems.

With no market demand for their gimicked up recordings the majors dropped this quickly.

To be honest, to use multichannel audio in a meaningful way, not gimmicky is not trivial and few engineers have or ever will master it. Most struggle to do something meaningful with 2 Channels of CD-Quality audio, never mind multi channel. I suspect in a decade or two sensible multichannel recordings will become more common and then the infrastructure will exist due to the home movie watching industry.

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I prefer mono for portable music (other than headphone). You're very unlikely to be in an environment where stereo or multi-channel can be used to advantage. Better put the money into one good mono speaker instead of two average stereo speakers.

As for multi-channel, I'm all for it too as long as the additional speakers (and channels if used) are equal quality, if not equal power handling, to the "main" speakers. Just as multiple subs make it easier to get good bass in a room due to flexibility of positioning, multiple full-range speakers make it easier to tame less than ideal rooms.
I was actually thinking headphones, but yea, better one good speaker than 2 pieces of junk.

ThorstenL,

Listening to SACD at the moment. It did receive a lot of resistance and thus arguably died. Too bad IMO.
I know what you mean about engineers, but that cheesy stuff is what they thought would sell many people on the new technology. They hooks a couple that got away. Not having a clear market seems to be their problem and caused the eventual demise. One could argue they're not dead yet, just hibernating. The situation was analogous to marketing expensive wine to high school kids. It just doesn't work. High quality music and its equivalent reproduction doesn't have mass market appeal. Drastically compressed pop mp3 rules the day. I have no desire to see it SACD go though. Too much potential there.

Hmmm, just got an idea,

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