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Old 5th April 2008, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default My first pair of speakers

Hello everyone i'm Mac, I have to say great forum, loads of usefull info and loads i dont understand!,
I'm at the early stages of building my first set of speakers, I'm not looking to spend alot of money (because its my first time) but I am aiming for decent quality. I bought a pair of morel mw142 5"woofers from a friend of a friend they are in good condition and havint seen much use, So I am planning a set of two way speaks, Havint any tweeters yet hopeing someone could recomend a pair that would suit these woofers. I have decided on building them in a sealed cabinet I used winISD and it came up with a box volume of 6.24 litres
I think i'v well and truely got the bug!
I know from reading the forum that alot of you guys recommend copying a proven set for your first time, but I was offered these wooofers for a good price and thought i'll just go for it.
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Old 5th April 2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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Hi Mac

i don't know who u buy really.because u tell me that a friend of a friend of a friend and of a friend. i think i don't know who your friends. i roll my brain. lol

a pair of morel tweeter.the series MDT29 i had ever done with it.
mac use 8.5 litre vent box. don't use close box. 5" is poor bass.
i have my xo if u want i will send u by mail.


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Old 5th April 2008, 10:50 PM   #3
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From what I've heard the Scan-Speak D2010 would be a really good match but then again, it's a good match for almost any decent 4-5" woofer. A real legacy tweeter.
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Old 5th April 2008, 11:37 PM   #4
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Those should be pretty darn good drivers, derserving of a good design and tweeter.

You have 2 choices, a small bookcase style speak or get some bass drivers as well and go 3-way!

If you go with the bookcase style, this might be exactly what you are looking for.. Uses the Morel MDT30 tweeter. Crossover design done for you and all !!

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Old 6th April 2008, 04:03 AM   #5
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Thanks Thawach, Yeah a copy of your x-over would be helpfull, The reason I was going for a sealed box is that I thought it would be easier to design and build? (Am I wrong?) I am a carpenter so I'm confident with the building of the cabinets, I'm just working at getting them designed properly!
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Old 6th April 2008, 11:51 AM   #6
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Thanks for that andy, Thats a big help. That looks uncomplicated enough for me to do. I was thinking about going 3-way but the moneys a bit tight just now, I'll see how I go with these and hopefully build a better set next time. If I wanted to make these speakers floorstanding, Would I just make then to the size I want and seal off the compartment for the speaker and port, Would this effect the sound of the speaker?
Thanks for the replies btw, been really helpfull

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Old 6th April 2008, 09:16 PM   #7
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If I wanted to make these speakers floorstanding.......
probably better to design a nice stand for them. If you create a chamber below the speaker it also has to be made so it doesn't act like a resonant box.. ie fill it with foam or sand or something , which can be tedious !

either way, be aware that a single 5" driver has its limits !! don't expect a lot of bass or loud volumes. etc
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Originally posted by DJMAC
Hello everyone i'm Mac, I have to say great forum, loads of usefull info and loads i dont understand!,
I'm at the early stages of building my first set of speakers, I'm not looking to spend alot of money (because its my first time) but I am aiming for decent quality. I bought a pair of morel mw142 5"woofers from a friend of a friend they are in good condition and havint seen much use, So I am planning a set of two way speaks, Havint any tweeters yet hopeing someone could recomend a pair that would suit these woofers. I have decided on building them in a sealed cabinet I used winISD and it came up with a box volume of 6.24 litres
I think i'v well and truely got the bug!
I know from reading the forum that alot of you guys recommend copying a proven set for your first time, but I was offered these wooofers for a good price and thought i'll just go for it.
For my disco I use some very cheap 75WRMS tweeters from Maplin. They are less than £5 each and can be put in series and/or parallel to get the amount of power you want.

I have a box with 6 in, they are wired as two sets of 3 in series to get 225WRMS * 2.

I remember my first set of speakers way back in the 1970's.
I had 2 boxes with 2 12 inch Fane 50 WRMS speakers in each box.
They were very good speakers and very loud for their rating.
They did a good job for many years on my disco and for playing guitar through.

Good luck with your project !
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Old 7th April 2008, 04:33 PM   #9
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I know I wont be getting alot of bass from these speakers, thats not important to me,I prefer them to sound balanced if that makes sence? Think am going to stick with the bookshelf speakers, Just need to go and get some MDF, and order tweeters and talk to my brother see if he will give me a hand with the crossover, Does anyone know a good place to buy crossover parts from in uk?? I really dont have a clue about crossovers need to do alot more reading.
I'll some take pics and post em up.

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Old 7th April 2008, 07:48 PM   #10
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Mac,

Our friend Thawach is right on the money.

In a 9 Lt. vented box, with minimal damping, and a port tube of 1.25" dia X 4.6" L, you'll get an F3 of 49.8 Hz (respectable for any 5" 2 way system).

The MDT-29 is an excellent choice for a companion tweeter.

Let us know how it turns out.

Best of luck,

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