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Old 17th February 2008, 04:48 PM   #1
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Default 100 dB mid

Guess most people prefer a 4" or 5" for a mid in a 3-way but howabout this baby>

http://www.monacor.de/typo3/index.ph...4&spr=EN&typ=u

Interesting specs (if true)
Fairly flat freq, only 55 euro's.
Crossed at 2000 beaming wouldn't be to bad (?)

100dB! Hello metal and orchestral.
Maybe a 3-way OB.
Finding a matching woofer won't be easy though.

Does anyone know of a project with it?
Or one with a similar driver?
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Old 17th February 2008, 06:04 PM   #2
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Right, now all you have to do is find a 100db woofer and a 100db tweeter?

Many horn mids will come close to this range and have even higher outputs, but what good is that high output if you need to turn it down (L-Pad) to match the other speakers? And by the way, they can be had for about $20.

Still, it is a nice speaker.

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Old 17th February 2008, 07:34 PM   #3
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High sensitivity doesn't guarantee high max SPL. For all we know at 1 full watt of power that cone may go into severe breakup.
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Old 17th February 2008, 08:30 PM   #4
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Right, now all you have to do is find a 100db woofer and a 100db tweeter?
Better make that a 106dB woofer to cover for baffle step losses.
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Old 18th February 2008, 12:43 AM   #5
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This tweeter would be an ok match, 60 euro's>
http://www.monacor.de/typo3/index.ph...2&spr=EN&typ=u

>>>And by the way, they can be had for about $20<<<
Jeez, some one is getting rich, and it isn't me.
Americans are lucky.

>>>Better make that a 106dB woofer to cover for baffle step losses<<<
8 woofers 97dB each could do it

>>>High sensitivity doesn't guarantee high max SPL. For all we know at 1 full watt of power that cone may go into severe breakup<<<
Damn logic is spoiling all the fun.
I guess an independent test is needed.
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Old 18th February 2008, 02:39 AM   #6
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8 woofers 97dB each could do it


When you combine a point source with a cylinder source there is only one correct listening distance. If this is no problem for you that might work. But determine the listening distance before choosing driver sensitivity.
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Old 19th February 2008, 01:18 PM   #7
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I wonder how can a 10 "speaker with a large magnet be sold at $20

And BTW, the PR170 is available again
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Old 19th February 2008, 02:18 PM   #8
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Kepa1,

I wonder how can a 10 "speaker with a large magnet be sold at $20.

Well, define 'large magnet'? Certainly 10" woofers can be had for less than US$30. In fact, Parts Express has 7 of them for less than $30, and an additional two for $32.

Personally, I wonder how a 10" speaker can justifiably be sold for $212.85 with what appears to be a small magnet...

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=297-058

But I wonder if you were referring to my statement -

And by the way, they can be had for about $20.

which was referring to mid-horns for $20, as in -

4" x 10" Horn Midrange = $18.24 each
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=280-050

* Frequency response: 500-11,000 Hz.
* Sensitivity: 104 dB 1W/1m.

The original poster was referring to the Mid characteristics of the Monacor speaker and its high sensitivity, and I responded with a mid of better sensitivity, though in hindsight, I see he was referring to Mid/Bass and not just to Mid alone. My mistake.

The Monacor speaker in question does seem pretty stable up to about 4khz and still usable at 5k where it starts to natually roll-off. The upper end break-up peak is well above 10khz at about 12khz or 13khz. So, that a 2khz crossover would be more than adequate, though with planning it could easily go as high as 3khz which is very unusual for woofer this large. At least, that's how it seems to me.

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Old 19th February 2008, 02:43 PM   #9
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I wouldnt believe those graphs that much
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Old 19th February 2008, 05:48 PM   #10
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I bought Monacor SP-15A/350Neo (105dB/1W) for use with 93dB Peerless 82xx + 10dB Tractrix Horn. I have to use 8dB attenuation for tweeter with horn. Where is claimed efficiency?
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