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Old 22nd December 2012, 06:45 PM   #51
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So if we're concerned about the validity of the modeling, a path forward might be to retain the basic X-over design and simply substitute better quality caps and resistors with the expectation that "harshness" and spatiallity focus would improve. This has certainly been reported with this type of mods to Polks & Def Tech which are in a similar price/ market as the M.A. S6/RS6 and had similar upgrade goals. By the way, what is the difference between the two?(S6,RS6) I've been assuming, good for one would apply to both.

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Old 22nd December 2012, 09:38 PM   #52
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@dunenthem. I'm not AT ALL concerned about the accuracy of the modelling. Within certain limitations, I found it worked EXACTLY, as shown below!

As it goes, Monitor Audio have employed decent components. What they have done is cut down the number, which we might rectify.

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Sorry, no. The driver parameters are completely unknown. I don't think it's correct to assume Visaton AL130 and DSM25 would be similar. Obviously drivers and/or crossover of S6 and RS6 are also different.

In the case of the S6, an elliptic filter might give more spl in the upper midrange and suppress the cone break-up as well. But it's impossible to design the filter without having any driver data.
Dissi, don't take this too hard, but most people wouldn't know an elliptic filter if it slapped them in the face, although it happens I do know what one is. Please do not employ such vague audio-gibberish. Leave that to Zaph...

We are living in the real world. It IS possible to modify a crossover VERY PREDICTABLY with enough insight into filters and metal drivers. Naturally there is an element of trial and error here AND reporting back with the results. But I have, I hope, addressed the three main criticisms of the listening experience. I have also been quite conservative in changes and reused components as much as possible. Time will tell.
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I am talking about a speaker for a NORMAL person. By a normal person, we mean someone of average intelligence, and someone who has no patience with technological obfuscation. Best Regards from Steve in Portsmouth, UK.
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