What do you guys think?
I want to build something like that. I can build it with car audio drivers just fine, not much work at all, but I was thinking of trying some horns with my setup to help project the sound to the rider about 70 feet off the back of the boat.
Most setups that you buy, the useres complain it can be hard to hear the music sometimes. There is a company called wetsounds that makes some speakers with a horn in them.
So my question is, what kind of horn setup would be good for a setup like this without breaking the bank? I am new to horn design so any help would be great.
Oh BTW great forum, have been reading it for years but never registered.
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I want to build something like that. I can build it with car audio drivers just fine, not much work at all, but I was thinking of trying some horns with my setup to help project the sound to the rider about 70 feet off the back of the boat.
Most setups that you buy, the useres complain it can be hard to hear the music sometimes. There is a company called wetsounds that makes some speakers with a horn in them.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
So my question is, what kind of horn setup would be good for a setup like this without breaking the bank? I am new to horn design so any help would be great.
Oh BTW great forum, have been reading it for years but never registered.
Find yourself some high efficiency horn tweeters, something like this -
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Audio,+V...DED/MHD-230/RD/displayProduct.jsp?sku=LS00620
Which is 109dB if you want to spend more money a compresion driver an horn should be capable of 120dB but will be significantly more expensive. Put them on the far left and right of the boat and angle them in to focus 70 feet behind the boat. They may not be able to hear the mid range from the main driver but the trebble should cut through, probably kill passing bats as well.
The problem you are going to have is finding a mid bass that has anywhere like the same efficiency. Poly cones are heavy and as such don't normally allow the drive to be very efficient and I guess you arn't going to want them to be very large say 6.5inch. I would think you will be lucky to find something with more than 86-90dB that will be percieved as about 4 times quieter for the same power input as the 109dB tweeter. This means to achieve the same sound level for 1W in the tweeter you would need about 80W going into the mid woofer.
More realistically you might as well find a cheaper tweeter, something like this:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Audio,+V...RANDED/MPT-001/displayProduct.jsp?sku=LS02371
or this
http://www.wle-shop.co.uk/modules/shop/view.asp?catid=79&Prodcode=900.298
Which are about 94dB efficient which is still going to sound like alot of treble. Then pad it down with a 47R 3W across the tweeter and about 33R 3W in series.
This would match the available mid woofers much better and is much cheaper. The second one is only 80p so if they get destroyed by rain / spray after a while you could just replace them.
These are from UK shops but very similar items should be available where you are and probably even cheaper - but don't get me on to that subject.
Regards,
Andrew
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Audio,+V...DED/MHD-230/RD/displayProduct.jsp?sku=LS00620
Which is 109dB if you want to spend more money a compresion driver an horn should be capable of 120dB but will be significantly more expensive. Put them on the far left and right of the boat and angle them in to focus 70 feet behind the boat. They may not be able to hear the mid range from the main driver but the trebble should cut through, probably kill passing bats as well.
The problem you are going to have is finding a mid bass that has anywhere like the same efficiency. Poly cones are heavy and as such don't normally allow the drive to be very efficient and I guess you arn't going to want them to be very large say 6.5inch. I would think you will be lucky to find something with more than 86-90dB that will be percieved as about 4 times quieter for the same power input as the 109dB tweeter. This means to achieve the same sound level for 1W in the tweeter you would need about 80W going into the mid woofer.
More realistically you might as well find a cheaper tweeter, something like this:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Audio,+V...RANDED/MPT-001/displayProduct.jsp?sku=LS02371
or this
http://www.wle-shop.co.uk/modules/shop/view.asp?catid=79&Prodcode=900.298
Which are about 94dB efficient which is still going to sound like alot of treble. Then pad it down with a 47R 3W across the tweeter and about 33R 3W in series.
This would match the available mid woofers much better and is much cheaper. The second one is only 80p so if they get destroyed by rain / spray after a while you could just replace them.
These are from UK shops but very similar items should be available where you are and probably even cheaper - but don't get me on to that subject.
Regards,
Andrew
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