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Old 17th December 2007, 07:55 AM   #1
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I have a homemade bass reflex loudspeaker using Dynaudio 17W75 woofer and D28 tweeter, there is a passive 6db crossover and I will change it for a passive bessel 12db crossover.

I can put the center frequency of that crossover at 2000 hz but I was think to go lower at 1600 hz, so less high would goes into the woofer and also because the tweeter do have an excellent transient response and also because the soundstage are mostly in the high frequency harmonics so the tweeter will do that job best.

Is it a good ideas, any suggestions ?

Btw, I will also ad a Zobel network, and both the tweeter and the woofer can run at 150 watts, and my amp are 60 watts.

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Old 17th December 2007, 08:46 AM   #2
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Lowering the crossover point is mainly a question of tweeter distortion in its lower range (increased excursion).

In your case, the tweeter appears to have an Fs around 1000 Hz. If you go too close to the resonant frequency, the tweeter begins to distort - how and how much cannot be told without a distortion measurement.

A 12dB crossover at 1600 Hz would probably too low, you would end up with distorsionat higher volume levels. I would either stick to 2kHz or use higher order filters (elliptic would probably work, but not trivial to design).
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Old 17th December 2007, 11:23 AM   #3
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bzfcocon i agree with you.
And i had ever done it before. It's not good. At the midrang frequency about 1500-2000 hz that sound is hard. I can't get both of them.(image and soundstage) because i hear the sound that have hamonics+distortion.

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Old 17th December 2007, 12:28 PM   #4
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Hi,

If the network is the same as the Contour 1, I cannot see the point.

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Old 17th December 2007, 12:49 PM   #5
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That Dynaudio D28 tweeter have a Fs of 880 hz.

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Old 17th December 2007, 01:56 PM   #6
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Hi! gaetan8888
If Dynaudio D28 tweeter have a FS of 880. I ever saw magnet loudspeaker. They use morel tweeter and set cut-off at 2200 hz
The morel tweeter have fs at 750 hz. Please see the circuit below.

http://www.magnetaudio.com/store/en/shop.asp

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Old 17th December 2007, 03:14 PM   #7
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I own that speakers from an old project. Could You send me the schematic of that crossover?
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Old 21st December 2007, 03:42 PM   #8
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Hello

Here is the crossover I would use.

Here's the formula;

L = R/pi*frequence

C = 1/(4*pi*R)*frequency

R are the speaker impedance

L are in Henry

C are in Farad

But the formula seem to be wrong since it not give right values ?

Anyone did try that type of crossover.

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Old 26th December 2007, 12:15 PM   #9
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What is wrong?

I don't know the point cut off that you use.
And the wrong is ......?


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Old 26th December 2007, 08:36 PM   #10
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The formula don't match with this table;

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