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Old 4th November 2007, 01:24 AM   #1
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Default Brisbane Meet No 2

Well, really it was an invite from Rob to hear his new Elisores speakers and a great job he’s done too.

Still a bit of trimming work, route some edges, complete fixed wiring, applying leather plus side and top “features” but they ran fine as is. He was kind enough to let us play with various gear we brought along for the day.

Geoff bought along Rotel CD player, ME Pre/Power amps, Aaron lugged in a rather large DD15 sub, Mark came along with Nu Force mono block power amps and I bought along Musical Fidelity X series CD, Pre & Power amps - also present Doug and Paul.

So we had a very fruitful time mixing different combos and generally putting Rob’s new babies through their paces.

Rob said one of his considerations was SPL and boy these thing play load when given a bit of juice.

So from all the lads above, thanks Rob and Pete (SWMBO) for the afternoon and I’d like to say thanks for feeding me after the event – well the offer was open to everyone.

Cheers - Phil

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Old 4th November 2007, 03:04 AM   #2
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excellent, we've gotta keep these aussie things happening, so far Bris is leading the way!! C'mon cockroaches, what are we going to do to beat the toads at their own game?? ha ha.
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Old 4th November 2007, 03:10 AM   #3
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Well can't wait for the next one then, hopefully I can make it!

Now I'm curious about this whole waveguide thing.
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Old 4th November 2007, 06:15 AM   #4
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excellent, we've gotta keep these aussie things happening, so far Bris is leading the way!! C'mon cockroaches, what are we going to do to beat the toads at their own game?? ha ha.
All you Mexicans do is talk - just can't keep up the pace!

Here's Sundays work ...

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http://www.greenie512.net/greenie512/html/ml_tqwt.html

This is just a filler while my crossover bits arrive for the "Poor Mans Strad" - hehehe - Meeting No 3 certainly on the horizon.

Cheers - Phil
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Old 4th November 2007, 06:43 AM   #5
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Again, wow Phil
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Old 4th November 2007, 09:17 AM   #6
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Thanks Rob.
I second Phil's observations about your babies' ability to push air!
Plenty of snap and slam, I thought.

As I was leaving to drive to Rob's place my wife asked me what I was intending to buy. (Nothing - this time - Dear!)
What I came home with - as always - is more inspiration and a bit more knowledge.
The bonus is always hearing new music that other people bring along.

A very worthwhile day.

Now, where's that router ...

cheers

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Old 4th November 2007, 08:27 PM   #7
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Thank you all for coming around.

(The cheesecake was very nice, thanks Phil)

Obiwan, the latest (Mark 3) version of Joe's Elsinores (which is what I have built) no longer use a wave guide around the tweeter, just two layers of felt (and boy you can tell the difference when its not there ).

It was great to hear them on the end of some decent cd players and amps, unfortunately though, it really showed up the defencies in my equipment (ahh, the never ending pursuit of the perfect audio delusion/ illusion . )

I was pleasantly suprised that the DD15 showed them to be pretty flat down to 25 hz (taking room gain into account). I wasn't suprised that it also confirmed what I had heard and had simulated (theoretically) about the large "black hole of bass" in the rear half of the room.

I spent a bit yesterday, going through all the hardwood flooring that I had piled up against the wall, selecting which bits I want where and will start cutting some of that up today for the top caps and plinths.

(Phil, I also did end up cleaning up my workbench yesterday as well, and perspired about 2 litres while doing it.)

And if anyone has any decent amps, just lying around doing nothing, I will be more than happy to keep them plugged in and warm for you
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Old 9th November 2007, 11:33 AM   #8
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The felt still creates a mild waveguide effect.

BTW Rob, I'm working on something amp wise that will be very suitable for the Elsinores. Keep patient and posted.

Joe R.
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Old 10th November 2007, 06:57 AM   #9
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Come on guys there are plenty of us who glue and screw here in Sydney.

I am awaiting time and money before i pursue my next two projects.

1: Celestion 6000 sub using 2 x 12" drive units.

2: 4 x 12" bass, 2 x 8" mid bass, tweeter. open baffle.

The 12" cost $25.00 each the 8" were free and the tweeters will be piezzo's.

So cheap and cheerful. I have a 3 active x over and the power amps so should be a laugh if nothing else.



We have diy projects demmed at the Audiophile Society of New South Wales regularly here in Sydney.

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Old 10th November 2007, 07:07 AM   #10
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Come on guys there are plenty of us who glue and screw here in Sydney.

I am awaiting time and money before i pursue my next two projects.

1: Celestion 6000 sub using 2 x 12" drive units.

2: 4 x 12" bass, 2 x 8" mid bass, tweeter. open baffle.

The 12" cost $25.00 each the 8" were free and the tweeters will be piezzo's.

So cheap and cheerful. I have a 3 active x over and the power amps so should be a laugh if nothing else.



We have diy projects demmed at the Audiophile Society of New South Wales regularly here in Sydney.

regards David

Hi david

what are you proposing?? I don't know what's up with sydney, the melbournians and now (even worse) the queenslanders are larfing at us!

I had a gtg here last month, no-one from sydney!! Most from Melb, and one from qld.

Do you go to the society's meets much (haberfield right?)? Is it worth my while heading on down??

If not, your place then ha ha.
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