Accuton underhung neodym drivers

crazyhub · 30th September 2007, 06:36 PM

Hi,

Did somebody still use:
mid/bass: C 220-T6-220 / c² 220NT6
tweeter: C 25N-6-13 / C² 13/6
I'm planing to use them as satellites in a three way with the C² 79/6 mid to complete my subwoofer (two Speaker HiFi 15SP300ti in 190 liters sealed lowpass 65Hz 24db).
Any feedback appreciated notably about power capabilities, x-over fr and slopes, loading.
Thanks.

Cloth Ears · 30th September 2007, 10:19 PM

Soup is close (C89 instead of C79).

danny_66 · 30th September 2007, 11:14 PM

Here you have a similar design:
http://homepage.mac.com/marc.heijlig...nes/index.html

The latest crossover:
http://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.php?topic=32492.500

crazyhub · 1st October 2007, 05:55 PM

Guys,

Thanks for your links about the Soup and Milestones. In fact I builded the filter for the Soup of a friend of mine and also had the opportunity to listen to the Milestones in Holland.
But, aside the C2-79/6, my question was about the underhung neodym drivers that are different from the "classical" C220 and C2-12/6:
http://www.clofis.nl/nl/thiel/C220-NT6.pdf
http://www.clofis.nl/nl/thiel/C13-6.pdf

ShinOBIWAN · 2nd October 2007, 09:00 AM

The drivers you have listed are audiophile junk. Find some real speakers

Cloth Ears · 2nd October 2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShinOBIWAN
The drivers you have listed are audiophile junk. Find some real speakers

Positive, Shin, positive. If you don't explain what a real speaker is, how is he going to know?

ShinOBIWAN · 2nd October 2007, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloth Ears

Positive, Shin, positive. If you don't explain what a real speaker is, how is he going to know?

Sorry. Crazyhub and I were having a bit of a joke around about drivers on another forum. Its sort of spilled over from there really.

Pay no attention.

crazyhub · 2nd October 2007, 06:34 PM

It seems these accuton are really audiophile junk because nobody use them. Maybe would it be better to go with some floppy AT...Oh no, I let these drivers to Shin...ing designers

...

ShinOBIWAN · 2nd October 2007, 06:40 PM

Yeah a driver just doesn't sound right unless its rigid cone is spraying resonance induced harmonics all over the frequency spectrum.

crazyhub · 2nd October 2007, 07:23 PM

Haha

War still continue. Shin, floppy cones indeed damp their resonances all over the spectrum; instead of pure tones you get damped resonances. With rigid cones, once you electrically damp their (high fr) main resonance you get ONE low harmonic allready fully damped and all the other fr remain clean and unaffected.

Cross the channel and go to Tony's or Marc's homes to really understand the issue of well designed accuton speakers!

30th September 2007, 06:36 PM	#1
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	Accuton underhung neodym drivers Hi, Did somebody still use: mid/bass: C 220-T6-220 / c² 220NT6 tweeter: C 25N-6-13 / C² 13/6 I'm planing to use them as satellites in a three way with the C² 79/6 mid to complete my subwoofer (two Speaker HiFi 15SP300ti in 190 liters sealed lowpass 65Hz 24db). Any feedback appreciated notably about power capabilities, x-over fr and slopes, loading. Thanks. __________________ crazyhub

30th September 2007, 10:19 PM	#2
Cloth Ears diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Soup is close (C89 instead of C79). __________________ Jont. "It is impossible to build a fool proof system; because fools are so ingenious."

1st October 2007, 05:55 PM	#4
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	Guys, Thanks for your links about the Soup and Milestones. In fact I builded the filter for the Soup of a friend of mine and also had the opportunity to listen to the Milestones in Holland. But, aside the C2-79/6, my question was about the underhung neodym drivers that are different from the "classical" C220 and C2-12/6: http://www.clofis.nl/nl/thiel/C220-NT6.pdf http://www.clofis.nl/nl/thiel/C13-6.pdf __________________ crazyhub

2nd October 2007, 06:34 PM	#8
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	It seems these accuton are really audiophile junk because nobody use them. Maybe would it be better to go with some floppy AT...Oh no, I let these drivers to Shin...ing designers ... __________________ crazyhub

2nd October 2007, 07:23 PM	#10
crazyhub diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alsace	Haha War still continue. Shin, floppy cones indeed damp their resonances all over the spectrum; instead of pure tones you get damped resonances. With rigid cones, once you electrically damp their (high fr) main resonance you get ONE low harmonic allready fully damped and all the other fr remain clean and unaffected. Cross the channel and go to Tony's or Marc's homes to really understand the issue of well designed accuton speakers! __________________ crazyhub


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30th September 2007, 11:14 PM	#3
danny_66 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lierde	Here you have a similar design: http://homepage.mac.com/marc.heijlig...nes/index.html The latest crossover: http://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.php?topic=32492.500

2nd October 2007, 09:00 AM	#5
ShinOBIWAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK	The drivers you have listed are audiophile junk. Find some real speakers

2nd October 2007, 06:40 PM	#9
ShinOBIWAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK	Yeah a driver just doesn't sound right unless its rigid cone is spraying resonance induced harmonics all over the frequency spectrum.

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