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Old 27th September 2007, 06:53 AM   #1
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I am new to this forum and speaker building and I am currently doing a lot of reading and getting any good information I can before I decide to go ahead. I would like honest opinions on the best box and crossover design software that is out there. I currently have bassbox pro and Xover pro, but I am hearing differing opinions that this software is not that great and or is good. Would appreciate any info. on any and all software out there. I know about LEAP but it is expensive and I am sure it is for more advanced builders. thanks.
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Old 27th September 2007, 09:21 AM   #2
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soundeasy is an excellent and powerful s/w, it has many features incl:

1. box design
2. x-over design

and many more,

not cheap, if you want to design more than 1 system it is the s/w to get.

the manual is adequate, the support is too bad: poor.

I have the s/w and still learning from it.
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Old 27th September 2007, 02:38 PM   #3
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I am using SoundEasy, and with user support, I think most of the difficulties are taken care of.

SoundEasy features:

1. Driver measurement, and parameter extraction.
2. Enclosure design and box parameter optimization.
3. XO design and optimization integrating driver performance data.
4. Active XO using computer to listen to XO before building it.
5. Room analysis and in-room performance analysis.

Manuals are on line for free which you can read before you buy.
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Old 5th October 2007, 06:41 AM   #5
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hello, thanks for the replies and links. will check them out.
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Old 8th September 2008, 11:38 PM   #6
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Hey Guys,

I'm trying to get my hands on a copy of X-Over Pro 3 for a school project. Does anyone know where I can get an evaluation version of this software?

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Old 9th September 2008, 03:07 AM   #7
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I would like honest opinions on the best box and crossover design software that is out there.
Like most things in life, it's not about "having the best stuff out there," but using what works for you. Or, as my old drum teacher would say, "Don't let the equipment play you."

That being said, what works for me is:
Unibox (box modeling)
Passive Crossover Designer (XO design)
JustMLS, Praxis demo (measurement)

Your mileage may vary. It seems as though the software of choice of XO designers whose work I admire most is usually LSPCad 5.0.
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Is Leap / LMS not in favor here ? How does it compare to the ones now being discussed ? Better? worst ? out dated ?
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Old 9th September 2008, 05:17 AM   #9
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Is Leap / LMS not in favor here ? How does it compare to the ones now being discussed ? Better? worst ? out dated ?
We have been using LEAP for design and simulation work for our clients (DIYers and "non-DIYers" alike) for a couple of years now.

1. LEAP does have its quirks and bugs. After all, it's software, and further it's essentially one-man software. For example, as we discovered after much hair pulling a year ago, if you specify port dimensions with the "External" checkbox unchecked, then LEAP should treat the dimensions as internal and ADD the wall thickness to draw the port. However, the dimensions you provide even if the checkbox is unchecked are taken as EXTERNAL dimensions. This is a bug as I confirmed with Chris Strahm, and cannot be easily corrected because *he* has to find time to go into the code :-).

2. Fairly easy to learn and use, and although I have not compared it with others I believe it should not be more difficult than others.

3. Specific capabilities are a bit weaker than other specialized packages. TLs are good per se but relative to more specialized TL modeling packages such as Augsperger's, probably weaker.

4. More generally (not specifically with LEAP), it is easy to get into the trap of beleiving that software is doing more for you than is already embodied into existing (and possibly "old") published mathematical formulations. Simple example: if you want a nice continuum of values/a graph to show you how a sealed alignment behaves with varying Q-values (Vb + box damping), something that our customers love, LEAP does not do that but you can easily go back to published formulas and build that capability into a spreadsheet.

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Ram,
thanks for the response. My leap/LMS package is now outdated and i have not used it in years ( 10 ) as I'm no longer involved in the audio field as before . Recently I have decided to design a set of speakers for myself and in my attempt to dust off both my brain and the software their old Key system has failed , hence i need to have an update.

In your opinion does it make sense to have the update or should i move on to one of the other software's mentioned in this Thread .

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