Philips made in Belgium, new production

engels · 10th August 2007, 12:22 PM

Just bought this funny fake at the local electronics shop. Philips made in Belgium, 6", coss 15NIS which is about $3.50
Perfect choise for toy guitar amplifiers!

janneman · 10th August 2007, 12:40 PM

Hi,

Why do you think this is fake? Philips has speaker production in Belgium, and the numbering seems original.

Jan Didden

engels · 10th August 2007, 03:13 PM

The price is a bit too cheap.... considering shiping from Europe. The sticker looks a bit too cheesy for a company like Philips. The box looks a bit too bold - no numbers, nothing except for the logo and "made in Belgium". Only the impedance seems to be okay (8).

Do you have those speakers for sale where you live?

alan-1-b · 10th August 2007, 03:43 PM

That Philips speaker looks like many I saw from the end of the 1970s to early 1980s, and its cardboard packing box also.
It is probably an original Philips made in Belgium, and not a fake.

It is only in later years that Philips MAY have stopped manufacturing speaker drivers in Europe, and bought from Asia.

Philips owned manufacturing plants/factories in many counries around the world.

Apparently Philips now do not have their own brand name on drivers, but another brand name is the continuation of Philips last developed drivers.
I have forgotten this name, but will post it here when I find it.

That driver you have was likely made at the end of the 70s or early 80s, and is low price because few people want them, or even know about them.
It is quite a good basic quality driver, and suitable for some purposes.

Is the surround, where the cone joins the outer diameter chassis, made from solid rubber {dark grey or black}, or foam rubber {grey}, or corrugated paper with a lacquer doping coat {probably black}, or a textile/cloth ?

What do you want to use it for ?

jacco vermeulen · 10th August 2007, 04:31 PM

Likely from the Philips plant in Dendermonde, 15 miles from Brussels.

Rolf Zetterberg · 10th August 2007, 08:50 PM

And the AD70801 can be found in this paper over magnet strength(page 6):
http://www.hitech-projects.com/hera/...s/aar05pu3.pdf

tomtt · 11th August 2007, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by engels
Just bought this funny fake at the local electronics shop. Philips made in Belgium, 6", coss 15NIS which is about $3.50
Perfect choise for toy guitar amplifiers!

i'd buy 10 of those at that price right now -

well , make that 20 ...

pic of the other side?

200

planet10 · 11th August 2007, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tomtt
well , make that 20 ...

Yes. Nothing wrong with those.

dave

eledora · 11th August 2007, 07:08 AM

could you give me more info about the speaker?

engels · 11th August 2007, 07:35 PM

You've made me curious...

It really looks a cheap fake with all sorts of dripping glue spots etc. - and it's definitely a new production. It loks completely fresh, not NOS or whatever.

I think I'm going to put it through some tests... and I'll post the results here.

10th August 2007, 12:40 PM	#2
janneman diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium meet Blog Entries: 6	Hi, Why do you think this is fake? Philips has speaker production in Belgium, and the numbering seems original. Jan Didden __________________ /Another new issue: Linear Audio Volume 3!

10th August 2007, 03:13 PM	#3
engels diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007	philipz The price is a bit too cheap.... considering shiping from Europe. The sticker looks a bit too cheesy for a company like Philips. The box looks a bit too bold - no numbers, nothing except for the logo and "made in Belgium". Only the impedance seems to be okay (8). Do you have those speakers for sale where you live?

10th August 2007, 03:43 PM	#4
alan-1-b diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midlands	Probably not a Fake That Philips speaker looks like many I saw from the end of the 1970s to early 1980s, and its cardboard packing box also. It is probably an original Philips made in Belgium, and not a fake. It is only in later years that Philips MAY have stopped manufacturing speaker drivers in Europe, and bought from Asia. Philips owned manufacturing plants/factories in many counries around the world. Apparently Philips now do not have their own brand name on drivers, but another brand name is the continuation of Philips last developed drivers. I have forgotten this name, but will post it here when I find it. That driver you have was likely made at the end of the 70s or early 80s, and is low price because few people want them, or even know about them. It is quite a good basic quality driver, and suitable for some purposes. Is the surround, where the cone joins the outer diameter chassis, made from solid rubber {dark grey or black}, or foam rubber {grey}, or corrugated paper with a lacquer doping coat {probably black}, or a textile/cloth ? What do you want to use it for ? __________________ Alan

10th August 2007, 04:31 PM	#5
jacco vermeulen diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: At the sea front, just under Rotterdam	Likely from the Philips plant in Dendermonde, 15 miles from Brussels. __________________ Looks like Sponge Bob has killed another thread.

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10th August 2007, 08:50 PM	#6
Rolf Zetterberg diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	And the AD70801 can be found in this paper over magnet strength(page 6): http://www.hitech-projects.com/hera/...s/aar05pu3.pdf

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eledora diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2007	could you give me more info about the speaker?

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