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Old 10th December 2007, 10:10 PM   #1111
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Hi All

For those in the UK. model junction online appear to stock the microscale gloss and the poly s clear flat acrylic paint in one store.

Poly S clear flat paint (15ml)...£1.75
Microscale gloss (30ml)..........£1.50
Delivery is............................£3.95
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Total...................................£7.20

The company also has 5 packs of hss micro drills which may offset the cost of delivery for me.

However I am going to try some of the local model maker stores in Glasgow before I place an order.

thought this may be of use to the UK subscribers to the thread.

Bud if you get a second could you double check just to make sure this is the right materials?

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Hi JB,

I'm also in Glasgow - and have been trying to get the italic pen nibs without success. Have you a source for these?

I did find ...

http://www.scribblers.co.uk/acatalog...ball_nibs.html

but they don't seem to have the angled ones.

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Old 10th December 2007, 10:19 PM   #1112
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Hi JB,

I'm also in Glasgow - and have been trying to get the italic pen nibs without success. Have you a source for these?

I did find ...

http://www.scribblers.co.uk/acatalog...ball_nibs.html

but they don't seem to have the angled ones.

Alan H
There is a new store opened at the Easterhouse Fort called Hobby craft (they have stores eleswhere in the UK, and a terrible website). They sell pin nibs and holders in packs for less than £10. They are not the same brand that Bud refers to, however I think they have something suitable. I was in for christmas pressies and I spotted them. However I was working from a rather poor memory of a rather lengthy thread.

I also bought them out of their own brand compartment boxes, 18 compartment cases are 99p - I've never been so organised!

I have not checked Millers craft supplies in Glassford street, but from being in before I would be suprised if they dont have them.

ps if you are in Glasgow, perhaps we could organise a listening night?
 
Old 11th December 2007, 03:06 AM   #1113
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Here are two suppliers of A series pen nibs. They do ship internationally. Most prepackaged SpeedBall nibs have at best, one A series tip. You can use the rest, but only for the most straight forward pattern applications.

http://www.dickblick.com/zz209/09/ Scroll down a page to the order sheet where you can purchase singles or many of a given size. Also they are out of stock until after christmas.

http://www.allartsupplies.com/item.php?articleId=1534 Probably the most promising, as you can get a boxed set, 1 of each pen, for a reasonable price. No comments made on availability.

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Old 12th December 2007, 01:57 AM   #1114
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Dave D sent over a pair of FR125S divers for us to have a listen to.
And I am sold on the over all process so much we are working with Dave now on driver mods for us.

Nice work.
 
Old 12th December 2007, 07:49 AM   #1115
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I have not checked Millers craft supplies in Glassford street, but from being in before I would be suprised if they dont have them.

ps if you are in Glasgow, perhaps we could organise a listening night?
Millers don't have them. I've still to try the Art-School shop - they're the sort who would order them in for us. I'll keep you posted.

Might be on for a listening night ... some way off yet though, I've got Sachikos to build first.

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Here are two suppliers of A series pen nibs. ... etc Bud
Thanks Bud. Might come to that if I can't easily source them locally.
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Old 12th December 2007, 03:44 PM   #1116
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Posted this on the Hawthorne Audio thread...so including it here also.

These two tips may help those of us who are practicing to be great EnABLers. Hopefully I've illustrated the concepts in a way that is translatable to use in EnABL techniques.

Tip 1) I know some of the blocks are very short in length. This may help with the longer ones. Learned this in a mechanical drawing class about 35 years ago.
  • To help yourself draw a straight line don't watch the tip of the pen as you draw. Focus on the point that is the end of the line as the pen moves from the starting point. You can practice on paper by drawing a line to connect two points. Start out doing this with the two points about an inch apart and increase the length as you get better. Place your pen on the starting point, shift your focus to the ending point, and move the pen from the starting point to the ending point while maintaining your focus on the ending point.

Tip 2) It can be difficult to paint with consistent and even brush strokes. This seems to be important since Bud's description of his gloss coating technique includes many single strokes of the brush. I learned how to paint houses from a master when I was in college doing a summer job--Jay painted stuff all over Vietnam while he was in the Army. He taught me how to evenly apply paint and varnish with straight and consistent brush strokes. There are two rules:
  • Rule 1 - Move the brush away from your heart--never toward it--no matter where the stroke begins in relation to your heart. (basically you just have to remember to always be extending/straightening your arm during the stroke.) This applies for up, down, and sideways brush strokes. Overhead painting is never recommended, but if you must, follow a modified rule and stroke away from your face.

    Rule 2 - Before you begin the brush stroke, inhale, and then exhale slowly when your're making contact with the surface and while making the stroke. The breath thing may also help with tip #1.

There may be a few bonuses that come along with using these tips!
  • Deep breathing helps you stay calm when you're painting the gloss coat on the cone of a brand-new high-cost driver.

    Drawing straight lines is essential when sketching a new enclosure design on a cocktail napkin.

    Good brush technique helps make the finish on an enclosure or baffle look better.
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Old 12th December 2007, 04:47 PM   #1117
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...AND as Darrel Hawthorne comments on his forum regarding the breathing technique tip mentioned above...

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"Always work in well ventilated areas and never hover over these surfaces as you work with toxic paints/surface coatings."
A decent filter mask is a required component of any workshop.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:55 AM   #1118
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Thanks Mike.

The scale we are working on is different and the awkward question of "what to do with the elbow" actually is predominate. However your comments about brush direction and breathing are welcome.

To handle a brush full of liquid and apply it to a porous surface, with any hope of evenness, certainly requires both a patterned regimen of body movements and a calm and alert mind.

Getting anxious and eager to finish is just going to cause you to loose focus and will allow Murphy a perfect opening. So practice what Mike is presenting, off of a cone you care about, until you are serene in your understanding of how Sable hair brushes, liquids and porous surfaces interact, while you brush from your heart.

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Old 15th December 2007, 03:14 AM   #1119
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Budp,

How about offering a kit with all the needed glue, pen, PVA, templates, foam triangles, etc.?
 
Old 15th December 2007, 03:39 AM   #1120
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far from it...I asked the forum for expressions of interest for such a kit. The response was "limited". Send me a pm to discuss.

glue & pva are the same, available locally
I would think a brush would be also
The patterns can be printed using a routine found here:

http://pharm.kuleuven.be/pharbio/gpaper.htm

A kit might consist of
A2-A5 tips (4) and holder
a bottle of Microscale Gloss coat
Poly Scale Flat (it comes in many colors)

anything else?
 

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