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Old 12th May 2014, 12:39 AM   #1
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What will be the availability of MAOP Alpair 7s and Aplair 10s?

I'd like to hear the opinions of those who have had the opportunity to listen and compare the MAOP drivers to their "stock" counterparts. Re: Detail, tonal balance, micro dynamics. etc.
 
Old 12th May 2014, 06:47 AM   #2
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Only Mark can speak to the availability and pricing of of these limited production models.

I suspect the number of forum members who've had the opportunity to directly compare both versions of either the 7 or 10s could be counted on one hand. I have MAOP7s (currently in FH3) and a couple of pairs of "regular" 7s on hand (1 ea .2 in Pensils, and .3 in "milli" MarKen) . My situation is complicated by the fact that both of the latter pairs have the EnABL treatment, which regardless of your philosophical position on, rather clouds the question of direct comparison. But I suspect you'll want an answer anyway - having heard a wide range of stock and "treated" drivers over the past 5? years, I get the impression that the MAOP process does many of the things that EnABL does, and more -

more finely resolved inner detail & texture, firmer bass, more transparency from the lower midrange to as high as I can hear anymore - that being probably well below 16kHz, and simply a sense of relaxed presentation that the standard or treated metals and certainly papers of the same size class don't quite attain

attempting to elaborate much further could lead to fuzzy subjective audio-geek mumbo-jumbo, something with which I carefully try to avoid

seriously, short of consensus on which set of objective measurements can explain what I think I hear, I'm left with "finesse & grace" YMMV

not much bloody help, was that now?
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Old 12th May 2014, 07:18 AM   #3
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What will be the availability of MAOP Alpair 7s and Aplair 10s?

I'd like to hear the opinions of those who have had the opportunity to listen and compare the MAOP drivers to their "stock" counterparts. Re: Detail, tonal balance, micro dynamics. etc.
Hello Silver,
All MAOP drivers go to Japan, mostly audio specialist collectors. Each driver is individually built, then tested/measured, the closest to each-other form a matched pair and serial numbered accordingly. Each MAOP cone is flex and weight tested to close spec, their production costs and reject rates are very high, hence their price.

Only 3 pairs exist outside Japan, so any reviews you find will be in Japanese. Chris's explanation pretty much concours with the collectors in Japan. Its worth doing a content search on Diyaudio as I made several posts on MAOP some while back.

I did in the early days offer these drivers to members, but at the time those who did reply were put off by the price. I have only 4 pairs of white coned MAOP10 currently available. For those interested, the cost is US$500 per matched pair. Please email me (support@markaudio.com) if you have a serious enquiry, otherwise they ship out to Japan on their next order.

Thanks
Mark.

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Old 12th May 2014, 10:13 AM   #4
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I think I have the only MAOP 10s outside of Japan; Chris's views / impressions IME apply here also. The oxidised cone appears to have superior self-damping to the standard, so the impression is largely of a lack of character; they do little that draws attention to itself, so in that sense (in that sense) they're a little reminiscent of electrostatics.
 
Old 12th May 2014, 11:52 AM   #5
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Question on the MAOP Alpair 10s - are these based on the Alpair 10.2 or 10.3? Understand that the Alpair 10.3 has some tweaks over the 10.2 that make it a better/next gen driver.
 
Old 12th May 2014, 04:26 PM   #6
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In terms of the stock units, yes (albeit they give up a bit on the bottom end).

The 10 MAOP as I understand it has some elements of both the 10.2 & the 10.3, with a custom coil of its own to go with the cone. The MAOP models really should be better known outside Japan. Unique drivers.
 
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... so the impression is largely of a lack of character...
I haven't had near the time Chris has on theMOAP 7s, but Scott sums up my main feeling.... very neutral.

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Old 13th May 2014, 08:10 PM   #8
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I like them. A lot. Could do with a listing on the MA site though -here in the west, they're basically unknown, unless somebody stumbles across one of the threads.
 
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and there are certainly a lot of folks who've spent far more money on audio bling with far less performance enhancement than the MAOPs cost - many of us now wading in the kiddie pool of FR DIY audio among them
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Old 13th May 2014, 10:45 PM   #10
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At $500 a pair for MAOP 10s, there are certainly a lot of tweak components that cost a lot more. Many of those tweaks are of questionable value or are just plain snake oil. A pair of high quality DIY speakers that cost $1,000 with exotic veneer is a real steal in the high end.
 

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