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Old 18th February 2014, 11:08 PM   #21
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So, Ed - you're saying that the Pearl enclosures look like veneer on flakeboard? I think a quick examination of the exposed edge and particularly end grain would disabuse anyone of that notion - sure there are some very nice real veneer edge tapes, but not that I'm aware of for end grain,

Moreover, I've yet to see even the highest quality of real wood veneers with a decent finish that would be mistaken for solid wood -particularly a species with deep pores such as the French oak used by Pearl.

Of course, I'd be interested to watch (although not participate in) a discussion on the statement:

The casings of all Pearl Acoustics enclosures are constructed from solid French Oak. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise – there is no better wood for making high quality loudspeakers. Since the 17th. Century the world’s finest organ builders have used slow grown, European oak for its neutral sound imaging and long-term structural stability.


Harley from Pearl here: Please guys let me assure you our cabinets are 100% solid French Oak, you can put a chisel to them and all you'll dig out is slow, grown, aged French Oak. Every cabinet looks different, in fact we can not build (visually) matching pairs - impossible, but that's what our customers seem to like. If we spend hours and hours matching pieces of wood and throw away more than 60 percent, we can get close - but we're not going to do this! Besides, if you look closely you'll notice that each of the sides of the cabinets are made of at least three different strips, all bound and glued together. Why? Because if they were not - the wood would bend back into the shape of the tree and possibly crack. And at 5KEUR per pair, I don't think our customers would appreciate it very much! Solid Oak is fantastic acoustically, you really need to try it.
Question: Why are our speakers so expensive? Because the distributor want a 50% uplift, delivery is expensive and then the retailer wants to double what he pays the distributor, the little bit over is raw products, time, testing, licences, guaranteeing, and marketing...
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Old 18th February 2014, 11:14 PM   #22
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I'm in the process of building 10.3 Pesils. Cabinets are done and I'm just waiting for the drivers to come in the mail. I was browsing the net and come across these The Sibelius. Is this what I can expect my Pensil's to sound like? The shure look like Pensils. What shocked me most is the 4995 euro price tag.
Hi The Sibelius will sound very different. The Pencil design is fantastic but with all cabinet walls 3cm thick and extremely solidly built with no battens or weak miters all you'll hear from the Sibelius is the fantasic sound of the drive unit and the air it pushes. No nasty colouration but fantastic deep base, that will shake the house without ever sounding boxy or thumpy. I hope this helps? Marks Alpair 10.2 is amazing, it just needs a construction to bring out the best in it. We are trying! They are at their best when reproducing acoustic instruments. A double bass sounds exactly like a double bass with all its overtones...

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Old 19th February 2014, 01:37 AM   #23
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Yes the late A10.2 was certainly a bass monster for its size, however, unless you have a special OEM production arrangement or other stash of drivers, the supply for this particular model might be limited?

I don't think there was ever any question as to the "why" of your pricing structure - any of us who've actually tried to sell our speakers understand that - particularly with the material and methods you employ. Certainly few DIYers posting here have had the opportunity to audition such a product, or undertaken to build along the same lines - I know I'd certainly be bragging if I had.
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Old 19th February 2014, 01:54 AM   #24
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Beatiful work on your speakers Adam0. That french oak really is lovely stuff.
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Good to hear things are progressing Harry.

5k euros is actually pretty cheap given distribution to resellers, your margins must be fairly thin.

I have a set of solid Garry Oak uFonkenSET here. Really beautiful and quite heavy. A direct to end-user price of $1.5k(if we could source material -- it is an endangered species so you have to get lucky with a wind-fall).

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Old 19th February 2014, 03:59 AM   #26
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Gorgeous work in the photos so new "Cabot" website- I doubt I'll be the only one watching the space for updates, and (full disclosure) for inspirations to pirate
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Old 19th February 2014, 04:18 AM   #27
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Thanks Chris,

The site is a big work in progress, so pay no attention to things that are out of place, or the occasional miss-spelling..

Otherwise Pirate away Just send me pics!

P.S. Absolutely stunning job on the A7/SDX7 build you and Dave recently completed. I've always wanted to do a similair build with the same drivers.
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Old 19th February 2014, 06:46 AM   #28
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Thanks, very much appreciated!
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Old 19th February 2014, 06:49 AM   #29
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Indeed, luckily we have a trusty supply, We do not have to wait for storms! :-) and sorry if I miss lead you, the actual end retail price is 5995EUR, just under the 6K but thids gives the retailer a little room for discounting.
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Excellent news Harley. Glad all is well at your end; wish I could see some of the finished Valentini at some point & take some pictures (I'll never be in a position to afford them alas) given that I'm a sucker for oak & this is probably the ultimate refinement of the design concept. As for pricing structure, agreed on it being perfectly reasonable given the construction & volumes involved for what are bespoke pieces of artisanal furniture as well as speakers. Let me know if there's anything I can assist with

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