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Old 18th May 2013, 01:08 AM   #51
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Old 18th May 2013, 03:39 AM   #52
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Hi Guys,
Some of the first 10M's and 10P's are going to MLC in Japan. They make rather nice cabinets, tasty price though! (1,380,000 Yen = US$13,453 at todays rates)

See attached pic of their "Xseed A10" system, will trial both Alp10M (metal) and 10P (paper) drivers in the next 2 weeks, prior to main launch in Tokyo.

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Old 18th May 2013, 04:32 AM   #53
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Hi Guys,
Some of the first 10M's and 10P's are going to MLC in Japan. They make rather nice cabinets, tasty price though! (1,380,000 Yen = US$13,453 at todays rates)

See attached pic of their "Xseed A10" system, will trial both Alp10M (metal) and 10P (paper) drivers in the next 2 weeks, prior to main launch in Tokyo.

Cheers
Mark.
Those are interesting. Any info on the cabinet size / construction?
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Old 18th May 2013, 11:23 AM   #54
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1320mmx300mmx429mm cabinet.
Rear firing slot loaded vent looks to incorporate a pannel along it's top edge which may possibly be adjustable to tune LF extension.
Driver mounted from within, onto a wave guide. Baffle may be decoupled.
Dimensions appear to be similar to a Super Pencil.
Curious to see anechoic and or in room measurements if available. Also like to know what others here would expect the wave guide to accomplish, advantages and disadvantages of such?
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Old 18th May 2013, 07:26 PM   #55
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The MLC website has more info, mleacabinet.com i suggest entering it into a google search translate.
Some of my guess's were a little off...better for you to read about it on their site.
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Old 18th May 2013, 07:30 PM   #56
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The MLC website has more info, mleacabinet.com i suggest entering it into a google search translate.
I just selected "English" off the top of the home page.

BTW, thanks to Mark for posting up the TS numbers.

jeff

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Old 18th May 2013, 09:30 PM   #57
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Hello Mark,

Always enjoy reading your posts.

In your travels to Japan have you ever come across a Japanese DIY loudspeaker magazine or website that's in English?

I love the Japanese attention/obsession with details and it's really frustrating not to be able to read Japanese.

Thanks!
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Old 18th May 2013, 10:57 PM   #58
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I just selected "English" off the top of the home page.

BTW, thanks to Mark for posting up the TS numbers.

jeff
...i missed that, lol

Scratch that, there's allot more info using the default Japanese site put thru google translate.

For example, "Front Horn after all": Google Translate Click on the top half of the web site home page above the language options bar, then scroll down to "posted on April 25 2013 and click on the title "Front Horn After All", you'll find RME DIGICheck Spectral Analyser plots with and without front horn, (just what i was looking for)...

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Old 19th May 2013, 02:53 AM   #59
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Hello Mark, What differences and similarities are you hearing between the 10P and 12P Gen 2? Looking forward to your new drivers!
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Old 19th May 2013, 03:36 AM   #60
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Hello Mark, What differences and similarities are you hearing between the 10P and 12P Gen 2? Looking forward to your new drivers!
Hi NewMountain, Guys,
The technical differences are size and suspension design. The 12P relies on its rear suspension for all mechanical oscillatory control. The 10P suspensions operate together, although both are extremely low damped.

In terms of "listening" experience, the 10P cone is similar in design to the 12P, so along with the 6P, we have a family of drivers which have similar tone and pitch characteristics.

Of these 3 paper coned drivers, the 10P (like its metal sister) will likely be the most versatile in terms of variety of adaptable box designs. Although its been very interesting to see how well the 12P has been used in a variety of box types from MLTL to BR's and slots.

One point to raise again re the 10P, I have really pushed the boat out in terms of mass reduction while maintaining low resistance low throw suspension design. You can get decent LF oscillation from the 10P's, please remember they remain classic full-rangers i.e. they are lighter load units. All 10P's come with built-in arrestors designed to help protect the drivers from accidental over-load.

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Mark.

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