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soundnovice 17th January 2013 06:23 AM

erich hartmann alpair 10.2 bookshelf speakers
 
have anyone tried Erich Hartmann's bookshelf using alpair 10.2 as in below link,
Alpair 10 Grey | Markaudio

zman01 18th January 2013 01:08 AM

Soundnovice,

IIRC Mark is using them himself. Please refer to post #86 of following thread:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/marka...duction-9.html

Mark can confirm.

zman01 18th January 2013 04:24 AM

Original thread on this cabinet:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/marka...enclosure.html

soundnovice 18th January 2013 06:29 AM

thanks zman!

soundnovice 11th March 2013 08:40 AM

2 Attachment(s)
completed these vented bookshelf spealers :)
Attachment 335304

Attachment 335305

thanks to Erich (for designing such a simple yet beautifully sounding box) and Mark.

silverhairbp 11th March 2013 01:01 PM

Very nicely done.

Tried to cut some 3/4" Baltic Birch for this design a couple of weeks ago. Table saw down so I have to wait until next week to get the wood cut for mine.

soundnovice 11th March 2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverhairbp (Post 3405722)
Very nicely done.

Tried to cut some 3/4" Baltic Birch for this design a couple of weeks ago. Table saw down so I have to wait until next week to get the wood cut for mine.

any reason going for bookshelf speakers? initially i planned to couple these boxes with woofers in 2way setup, but now after listening to them i have decided to go for pencil design as these drivers alone can handle lows pretty nicely. no woofer necessary.

silverhairbp 11th March 2013 01:15 PM

I decided to use this design because it appears that Mark is using it as his reference enclosure. If there is an issue with bass (fully anticipate one because of my preference for classical music performed by a full orchestra) I have some subs that I can bring in under them.

soundnovice 11th March 2013 01:34 PM

this box attracted me for the same reason you mentioned. apart from that its very simple!
its bass performance is very good. clean and smooth. not sure adding a sub will be good as this driver alone in pencil can reach 30hz in room. go ahead and build these tiny boxes and you will be happy. for even better bass, i read pencils are recommended.

chrisb 11th March 2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundnovice (Post 3405729)
any reason going for bookshelf speakers? initially i planned to couple these boxes with woofers in 2way setup, but now after listening to them i have decided to go for pencil design as these drivers alone can handle lows pretty nicely. no woofer necessary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundnovice (Post 3405772)
this box attracted me for the same reason you mentioned. apart from that its very simple!
its bass performance is very good. clean and smooth. not sure adding a sub will be good as this driver alone in pencil can reach 30hz in room. go ahead and build these tiny boxes and you will be happy. for even better bass, i read pencils are recommended.


I couldn't agree more - while few of us have had the opportunity to compare every possible permutation, I've experienced the larger MA drivers enough to say that with all due respect to the numerous designers of compact / bookshelf enclosures for the 10.2 (and for that matter 12P), these drivers truly blossom in a "full size" enclosure such as Pensil, M10A10, Silbury, etc.



Of course on those rare occasions when domestic concerns interfere with optimal enclosure design / placement ....;)

ya see, that's funny because .... well you know


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