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Old 19th October 2012, 06:38 PM   #11
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Hi Bernie

I sent you a PM to exchange contact info. I'm hoping to be in Nanaimo Monday evening.

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Old 19th October 2012, 07:31 PM   #12
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Tono,

Pm received and replied. Hopefully we'll be able to meet Monday night.

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Old 1st November 2012, 07:21 PM   #13
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Hi Tono, did you have a chance to go to Dave's and listen to all of the speakers he mentioned? What did you think of the different drivers compared to one another?
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Old 7th December 2012, 05:12 PM   #14
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hi, i'd be interested in hearing what you thought too.
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Old 7th December 2012, 06:13 PM   #15
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Hi Tono, did you have a chance to go to Dave's and listen to all of the speakers he mentioned? What did you think of the different drivers compared to one another?
I can't speak for Tono, except to say that Bernie is building him a special instance of Bob Beines ML-TL for A10.2eNc. It was a tight race between it an A7.3, but in the end not having to potentially complicate things with helper woofers won out.

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Old 7th December 2012, 09:43 PM   #16
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Sorry for the late reply. Weeks ago I wrote up something then accidentally deleted it.

I heard four main drivers. The first being the little Fostex in tiny little Micro(?) Fonkens. Ask Dave about nomenclature for his varying size of Fonkens. They were super cool and mids n highs were extremely 3D holographic when powered by Bernies 2A3 amp. Amazing for violins and vocals. Very small amount of bass but at Dave's I heard them matched up with a Rel type sub. It sounded great and in the future I'll probably own some but it wasn't the all-rounder that I was looking for in my first set up.

I heard the EL 70's enabled at Bernies in an stellar mid size Fonken cedar enclosure he made and they were incredible. I've never heard a violin sound so real. I could hear the wood of the violin resonating. This was an eye/ear opening experience. Bernie has quite a few sets of speakers (all gorgeous ones he has crafted) and I think he uses these the most often. Extremely 3D and holographic and with a bit of bass to boot. I also heard the EL 70 enabled in a tall pyramid type enclosure made out of MDF. They sounded good but I found the sonics a bit dark and recessed due to either the enclosure design or the MDF material. They still sounded good but just personal preference I guess.

At Dave's I heard the 7.3's enabled and non-enabled. Non-enabled had more shimmer (? not sure how to describe it, it seemed like a shimmer, but not with detail) and the enabled drivers had a more distinct separation between instruments, more precise focusing of instruments in the soundstage and a deeper soundstage from what I heard (Identical Fonkens side by side, one enabled one not, same components source and material). I preferred the sound of the enabled driver. The sound was smoother, cleaner and just as detailed. I think the enabling process really helps the full range driver deal with replicating multiple instruments playing at one time. The EL 70 vs the 7.3? Both good and I'd be happy either way but I'd probably go 7.3, one half dozen to other, a win win situation.

From memory I heard the 12's in a larger mid size Fonken. They were Ok but not super impressed as compared to the 7.3's. I don't remember hearing the 12's in a full standing enclosure.

Then I heard the 10.2's in a Bob Brines design that Chris and Dave made up. The mids and highs were not as super duper special as the 7.3's but they were decent and had an overall presence that is just what I'm looking for. The bass on these bad boys was full boogy factor and the sound of it, from a full range driver with no subs or crossovers was glorious. Right then and there I knew this was the set up that's gonna be the true full range loudspeaker in my larger space.

I remember at one point hearing the 7.3's and they started to break up. They just couldn't handle any bass heavy music or higher volumes. This was in a Fonken. Perhaps if they were in a Pensil they would have faired better? A super amazing driver but you may need to cross it over with some woofer action but then you'd lose the magical coherency. From what I heard the 10.2 is the true full range Mark Audio driver in a moderate size room and at moderate volumes. In a small room a 7.3 in a Pensil with room gain at moderate volumes and less will be so good it's surreal. I could have gone with the 7.3 as my wife doesn't much like the SPL's going much past 60, 70 would be full out max for her. However I wanted the option, for when she's out or when I have friends over that we can turn it up a bit to around 80+ db and boogie down the whole joint~

A huge thanks to Bernie, Dave and Chris.

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Old 8th December 2012, 08:23 AM   #17
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Hi Tono,

Interesting read. I'm trying to choose a FR driver by reading stuff on here. I want something quality and suited to my needs but don't have a lot of cash that can be spent trailing drivers. At the moment I'm considering the Markaudio a7, a10 and a12's but also the Fostex F200A but I can't seem to find anyone who has made a direct comparison between any Markaudio drivers and the Fostex. Can I just ask, What is involved in the 'enabling' process for MA drivers?

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Old 8th December 2012, 08:36 AM   #18
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Hi Tono,

Interesting read. I'm trying to choose a FR driver by reading stuff on here. I want something quality and suited to my needs but don't have a lot of cash that can be spent trailing drivers. At the moment I'm considering the Markaudio a7, a10 and a12's but also the Fostex F200A but I can't seem to find anyone who has made a direct comparison between any Markaudio drivers and the Fostex. Can I just ask, What is involved in the 'enabling' process for MA drivers?

Many thanks,
Matt
Hi Matt,
So you're a Leicester lad? I lived in Sileby, Birstall, Barlestone and on Scraptoft Lane before escaping to parts of the new world. If you need advice, feel free to email me: support@makraudio.com

I'm in Australia and NZ until Dec 18th so checking email isn't daily.

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Old 8th December 2012, 10:05 AM   #19
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Hi Mark,

I live just off Scraptoft Lane! On Station Lane, near the White House!
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Old 8th December 2012, 12:10 PM   #20
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Matt,

What type of music do you listen to? Any other duty these speakers are going to do? Room size? - Folks can chip in with the their thoughts accordingly. All of the MA drivers you've mentioned are good, but each would have their strong points depending on application, room size, speaker cabinet choice, and amplification used.

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