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Old 6th May 2012, 08:10 PM   #31
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I'll back Dave on that Big sound from KENs with the wooft doing the lower stuff. Plenty loud in a 25m2 room.
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Old 6th May 2012, 08:10 PM   #32
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The woofTs make a BIG difference (even with only a 100 Hz XO -- measures suggest 125-150 would be better). And IIRC your room is ~40 m^3, mine is ~250 m^3.

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The woofers I've got now sounds horribly bad at higher frequencies. I don't know the exact XO right now but I played some songs with some mid-bass and turned the XO down until it didn't sound bad any more. I'd guess the XO is 70-80Hz right now and more than that and they start to sound bad.

And how low do they go? 40Hz? 30Hz? 20Hz?
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Old 6th May 2012, 08:54 PM   #33
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And how low do they go? 40Hz? 30Hz? 20Hz?
Lower than the Dales, i'd guess 30 Hz. 2 EL166 in Scott's 32" ML-TL vrs 1 in a BR. They can at times cause tingles in the legs on some bass tracks. I can push them past their comfort zone, but it is getting uncomforatably loud by then (~250 W per channel).

You'll still need a subwoofer for train wrecks (visceral, stomach turning quantities -- at least in my room -- i have 2 push-push SDX10 subs just waiting for an amp). We will eventually get these into a smaller space and see what happens.

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Old 6th May 2012, 11:25 PM   #34
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Default EL166

In 23.5 liters net BR, port tuned to 33Hz, the EL166 models F3/F10 at 38/26Hz.

Looking forward to the replacement, wish I'd ordered some earlier.
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Old 13th May 2012, 03:49 PM   #35
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The latest commission build near in completion. Thought I'd give Matt, the new owner, a taster of what his new speakers will look like when all wired up.

These are skinned in Zebrano veneer and finished with Liberon Finishing Oil and a final coat of wax. I'm rather pleased with the way the oil has brought out the contrasting grain of this wood. Hope Matt feels the same when he sees them.

You can see where they got the name for this veneer from, hey

The keen eyed will notice the drivers are not screwed into the cabinets but just placed in the rebates for the photo taking whilst the sun shines outdoors in my back garden.

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Old 14th May 2012, 09:35 PM   #36
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2 EL166 in Scott's 32" ML-TL brs 1 in a BR.
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I don't understand "brs 1 in a BR". BR is bass reflex I'm guessing but don't have clue what brs is.
Dave, how would you compare the bass of wooft to the original twin el166 ml-tl? I managed to grab some before they went out of production.
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Old 14th May 2012, 09:51 PM   #37
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My excellent typing skills (especially seen when i'm on the laptop)/ "b" key right next to the ""v" key. Should be ML-TL vrs BR/

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how would you compare the bass of wooft to the original twin el166 ml-tl
Close but not quite as extended or (from memory) as capable when the wick is turned up. With the last of the EL166 coming off the break-in bench. We will be revisting this design, but i want to put another twist on it, and noodling over options.

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Hehe, a good thought! So you basically imagining the same?
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I managed to grab some before they went out of production.
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Close but not quite as extended or (from memory) as capable when the wick is turned up. With the last of the EL166 coming off the break-in bench.
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Dave,

Was the original MLTL bigger + taller?

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