Next Gen 70-mm Markaudio paper cone - Page 2

Hylle · 15th February 2012, 10:13 AM

Dear Markaudio. From you first post, I understand you can control the thickness of the cone in the neck area? Is that true? I thougt the cone bas made, by pouring paper pult onto a net, and that way the cone will be equally thick all over the cone?

doggy · 5th April 2012, 03:15 AM

Is there an MA driver the same as the CSS EL-70?

Another unrelated question: is there a dealer in the Philippines for MA speaker drivers?

chrisb · 5th April 2012, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggy

Is there an MA driver the same as the CSS EL-70?

- not really-(and a bone of contention for some

) - of the MA drivers with nominally same cone diameter, the Alpair7.3 is vastly more refined, resolving, and less forgiving of compromised upstream components, and neither of the other current paper cones that size ( CHP70 / CHBW70) have the HF response of the EL70

If the Alpair6P went 10-15Hz lower .........

planet10 · 5th April 2012, 06:51 AM

6p has the classic vintage sound nailed ... it is a bit soft on the top, the 6p would need to go at least 30 Hz lower to equal the EL70 LF response -- only the A10.2 goes lower.

dave

doggy · 5th April 2012, 03:25 PM

Thanks for the info. So reading in this forum i have read some comments by MA that there is a fear of abusing or over driving his fr drivers. I think it might be due to the fact they sound so good but give me more; volume, involvement? So maybe too much to expect from a single 4"but can a bigger,stronger driver be a solution 5-6" or 2 4" per side? Not heavy bass augmentation but more volume with the same finesse.

silverhairbp · 5th April 2012, 04:19 PM

The A10.2 seems to meet the needs of a lot of people. That might be worth investigating.

chrisb · 5th April 2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverhairbp

The A10.2 seems to meet the needs of a lot of people. That might be worth investigating.

at the risk of censure - more volume and bass extension than 7.3 , yes - "finesse" in the upper mids/top, maybe not

jacozz · 5th April 2012, 06:20 PM

Personally I don't really understand why one should have x (insert number) of somewhat by a small margin different drivers?

For me it would makes more sense to do it the (Apple way). It should reduce costs as well.

1. One driver for fullrange for a big room
2. One driver for fullrange for a small room
3. One driver that would work as a midtweeter in a "Fast" system.

And that's it.

Put the energy, focus and therefor cost on three drivers instead of x numbers would make much more sense in my view.

/Jacozz

planet10 · 5th April 2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggy

Thanks for the info. So reading in this forum i have read some comments by MA that there is a fear of abusing or over driving his fr drivers.

Much more the metal cone Alpairs. The EL70 has proven pretty robust.

dave

jacozz · 5th April 2012, 07:05 PM

What about my suggestion?
Make a sandwich of paper and alu?
Best of two worlds? (At least in theory)

/Jacozz

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15th February 2012, 10:13 AM	#11
Hylle diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Denmark	Dear Markaudio. From you first post, I understand you can control the thickness of the cone in the neck area? Is that true? I thougt the cone bas made, by pouring paper pult onto a net, and that way the cone will be equally thick all over the cone?

5th April 2012, 03:15 AM	#12
doggy diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Princeton B.C.	Is there an MA driver the same as the CSS EL-70? Another unrelated question: is there a dealer in the Philippines for MA speaker drivers?

5th April 2012, 03:25 PM	#15
doggy diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Princeton B.C.	Thanks for the info. So reading in this forum i have read some comments by MA that there is a fear of abusing or over driving his fr drivers. I think it might be due to the fact they sound so good but give me more; volume, involvement? So maybe too much to expect from a single 4"but can a bigger,stronger driver be a solution 5-6" or 2 4" per side? Not heavy bass augmentation but more volume with the same finesse.

5th April 2012, 06:20 PM	#18
jacozz diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Personally I don't really understand why one should have x (insert number) of somewhat by a small margin different drivers? For me it would makes more sense to do it the (Apple way). It should reduce costs as well. 1. One driver for fullrange for a big room 2. One driver for fullrange for a small room 3. One driver that would work as a midtweeter in a "Fast" system. And that's it. Put the energy, focus and therefor cost on three drivers instead of x numbers would make much more sense in my view. /Jacozz

5th April 2012, 07:05 PM	#20
jacozz diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2009	What about my suggestion? Make a sandwich of paper and alu? Best of two worlds? (At least in theory) /Jacozz