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Old 13th December 2006, 01:03 AM   #531
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right off the tip of my verbatim *** , Sy.

Good thing I'm not in politics. They could hang me on the wall and take me out in the case of a fillibuster emergency.
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Old 14th December 2006, 11:55 PM   #532
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Nobel prize winnng physicist (Josehpson Junction-Superconductors) defends the paranormal

Now, what say you? Is this man, whom was a hero..before this pronouncement...is he now a 'nutbar'?

Once again, one person's emotional connections to the idea of 'reality' have NOTHING to do with the trure nature of reality.

And do not make the mistake of thinking I think this genleman is emotionally connected to the idea of the paranormal, but rather I think that people generally are emotionally connected to the starker aspects of blunt materialism. Blind to universal truths. Sense of comfort, being in control, and all that.

Everyone is born a genius, but the process of living de-geniuses them."-Buckminster Fuller

Never forget, for one second, to live within the moment of youthful wonder, and exploration. I refused the mantle of adulthood, as it was thrown at me in my teens. I saw the insanity of it - for what it was, and as a human being, did my duty to and for the world, by pointedly spitting it out..and ignoring it.


For as my signature used to say:

99.9999% of what affects our reality will be undetectable by our five senses. We must learn to think for ourselves, rather than to follow blindly what has Been taught.-Buckminster Fuller
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Old 15th December 2006, 12:07 AM   #533
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Is this man, whom was a hero..before this pronouncement...is he now a 'nutbar'?
Yes. So was Newton- genius and nutbar are not mutually exclusive. Take Bobby Fisher... please.

Trivia: Newton wrote more on theology than physics.
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Old 15th December 2006, 02:59 AM   #534
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That was my way round of saying such in the thread on the PS idea, by saying, "The majority of Newton's work was in other areas".

Most scientists don't like the idea that the greater mass of Newton's work was on theology.

Well, Sy, let me take a page form this article and hang it out in front of you:

He also discusses “pathological disbelief” in some scientists, whose attitude can be summed up in the statement: “Even if it were true I wouldn’t believe it”.


I rest my case. For the XXXth or more time. But I will continue to hammer away. How long? As long as it takes.
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Old 15th December 2006, 03:29 AM   #535
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Once again, one person's emotional connections to the idea of 'reality' have NOTHING to do with the true nature of reality.

.Blind to universal truths.
quite true!





self-reflection seems to be the 'order of the day'
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Old 15th December 2006, 09:59 PM   #536
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Most scientists don't like the idea that the greater mass of Newton's work was on theology.
Not to get anywhere NEAR a religion themed comment (which would of course be against the rules) but most scientists take the theories of Newton that can be tested and apply them when appropriate and accurate. For the stuff that cannot be tested, most scientists simply tend to ignore it in terms of their scientific existence.

Theology and philosophy are QUITE separate areas than science. Non-testable hypotheses are not within the realm of scientific exploration, thus the reason that good science actively ignores religious theory when searching for answers and only looks at the data concerning the system being studied. Now, whether this is the correct manner in which to approach answers to life's great questions is a matter for a philosophical discussion that is quite beyond the scope of a DIYaudio forum!

Speaking of baseball, how about them Cubs?!?!?! Signing Soriano? I'm really interested in seeing how THAT will turn out.
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Default ...to keep tradition up and jack thr thread...

...aww s***, I just watched a DVD copy of "Timeline" - MAAAN - a writer takes pains to research for his novel and Hollywood make a B movie out of it?
Burger them, steam them, hang, draw and quarter them - and in the time most of that piece of junk story is located (1334 AD), people had even more drastic ways to deal with charlatans like Time/AOL/Warner.
:bs: I say.
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Old 16th December 2006, 03:46 PM   #538
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I rest my case. <snip> But I will continue to hammer away.
Hmm...
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Newton- genius and nutbar are not mutually exclusive.
Science (and catlovers) should be relieved that nutbars and high BPS clubs were not that popular in the 18th century. Sir Isy might have burned up instead of a fading workaholic genius.
Unconventionalism may be the biggest trigger for non-traditional thinking.
One of my hard-die finite elements friends at polytech really went into brilliance mode when he hit Frisco after a job offer. (John Nash type of guy)

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Old 17th December 2006, 06:52 AM   #540
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quite true!


self-reflection seems to be the 'order of the day'
True enough. Touche! but, it brings me back to my favorite fact, of which there is only one of:

There are no facts. Except for this one.

To restate: All is unreal, all is unverifiable, by any means. That one thing is the ony verifiable condtion.

Observation of flow, becomes the act of observation, which creates the fact. In singularity of polarity. A two point singular condtion.

'The Mirror of Descartes', would be a good name for it.


That is the one thing that most people cannot get their head around.
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