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Old 11th October 2007, 02:52 AM   #1101
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Are we so crazy? For moving easily beyond that which most accept? I think not.

Delayed gamma rays from deep space may provide the first evidence for physics beyond current theories.

The MAGIC (Major Atmospheric Gamma-ray Imaging Cherenkov) telescope found that high-energy photons of gamma radiation from a distant galaxy arrived at Earth four minutes after lower-energy photons, although they were apparently emitted at the same time. If correct, that would contradict Einstein's theory of relativity, which says that all photons (particles of light) must move at the speed of light.

"Everybody's very excited," about this result, said Daniel Ferenc, a physics professor at UC Davis and a member of the MAGIC collaboration. Ferenc cautioned that the results need to be repeated with other gamma-ray sources and that a simpler explanation had not been ruled out. But, "it shows that such measurements are possible," he said.

The researchers propose that the delay could be caused by photons interacting with "quantum foam," a type of structure of space itself. Quantum foam is predicted by quantum gravity theory, an attempt to unite quantum physics and relativity at cosmic scales.

The astronomers pointed the telescope at Markarian 501, a galaxy half a billion light-years away that contains a "blazar" -- a massive black hole that gives off bursts of gamma rays. Some of the material falling toward the black hole gets squeezed into jets that burst from the poles of the object at close to the speed of light. These jets fire off flares of gamma rays a few minutes long.

The researchers sorted high- and low-energy gamma-ray photons coming from the object with each flare. Joined by a group of theoretical physicists led by John Ellis from CERN, the MAGIC team showed that the high- and low-energy photons appeared to have been emitted at the same time. But the high-energy photons arrived four minutes late after traveling through space for about 500 million years.


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Old 14th October 2007, 12:59 PM   #1102
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This thread was once started by me, but now hijacked by some other cryptic maniac of fanatism.......
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Old 14th October 2007, 03:28 PM   #1103
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Let me put it this way. Order is..hm..the order of the day in THIS space. In the opposite, or negative space, all time occurs all at once. Anything is possible there. Instead of the physical laws being dominant, the mental laws are. 'Action at a distance' is the 'strong force' there. The minute energy of the intellect becomes the dominant force there, as opposed to it's perceived weakness..here. Through the center of the vortex..that thing we like to call...either a particle or a wave (depending on observation or no observation..it is a particle or a wave).

Now..psychic phenomena claims to be able to work with 'action at a distance'..to 'know' something and even science itself, specifically United states government research, specifically the Offices of Naval research...claim flat out, that 'action at a distance', most specifically in the context of molecular action at a distance, most specifically within the capacity of the human body and human mind are TRUE and REAL. And we are talking about not only action taking place in an identical fashion remote to the initial stimulus, but reaction taking place BEFORE the initial stimulus. So, flat -out..precognition. As verified and published by the United States 'offices of Naval Research.

Get your head around it, it is real. So get over it and fugging deal with it, OK?

Back to the vortex. Remember the Tornado, as we now (as of recent) understand it. A vortex within a Vortex. An opposite flowing inner vortex within the outer vortex. Same-same, but atomic vortex of 2-d stress fields at their interface point. Balance.

Now, psychics claim the things they claim. History, on the subject of precognition, science on remote viewing, mystics, psychics all claim to know of 'other universes'. Other 'worlds'. Why? Not because they are nuts but they are able to connect to those 100% real, but until this soon-to-be upon you time...not widely accepted. Then we can begin the scientific investigation. For those who choose to not deal with it, they can be simply left behind, already sitting in their graves..fuming about their tender sense of reality being attacked. Too bad for them.

What we have here, is the mathematical, dimensional, and vectoral opposite of what we like to call reality, existing on the other side of the vortex --which is merely universally huge oscillating 2-d stress fields at their interface point. The symmetry on the other side of that vortex is identical to this 'universe'. All the values are inverted though, as I stated.

If you sit down and contemplated every single aspect that those 'dimensional walkers' we like to call psychics are aware of, it fits perfectly. If you have the strength to go and look.

This is not a rant, this continued blah-blah of mine...it never was.

I'm just tired of seeing all you people tied into such a small, narrow-minded tiny universe. You have no freaking idea how big it is and how involved it is. Remember. Opposites. Exact opposites. Here, you age and die. There.... death does not exist..and you continually expand. over here, there is fear, animalism, and small mindedness. Over there (which is actually in every single molecular component-as an interface which is wholly coupled to this one, in all ways)..there is no pain, no fear, none of those specific human frailties. We express deep difficulty in understanding and accepting these things as what we don't know here..we 'know all' over there. Simply for the initiation of the mental construct of the question, the answer then exists. Remember, exact opposites. No questions, no answers. All is all.

And there are those among us who can cross the line between the two. And they can carry specific types of information back across that point - the vortex.

You might find that the situation is a bit Zen and puzzling, but then again..that is the nature of what these folks try and get you to understand, all of them. The Buddhists, the Zen dudes, the psychics, the researchers, etc, etc.

Basically, we/them/us..all trying to get you to deal with the animalism of the hindbrain and raise yourself to a higher state of being.

And it is unbelievably way cool over here. It's fugging awesome.

So get thee over it,and start looking. Watching most people, for me...is like watching people standing in the middle of a fire, burning their ***** off, struggling like mad..writhing in pain and not..even...knowing it. Very sad, and excruciatingly painful to watch.

This isn't an intelligence thing, or an IQ thing. There is no special mental connectivity type thing required to master it. There is only internal acceptance of reality as it actually is. My dog, fer crissakes, can do it. OK? Anyone can. The more you are steeped in scientific and 'reality based lore' but..most specifically 'closed minded' about such things (other universes on the other side of the vortex), the more you curse yourself to a life of pain and ignorance that is never ending.

If I seem emotional and human about such things, just like the next a-hole screaming from a rooftop, well. we all have to deal with human frailties here, even though awareness of such things can exist. Knowledge does not specifically equate with behavioural changes or difference in the given individual. Ie, smart is not intelligent. While here, in this existence, we are all human. But knowledge of these realities can make an extremely positive change..and the overall human 'group mind' is changing, changing in this direction.

The group of humans that exists as animalism, fear and control..is fighting it. Too bad. They are going to loose. But the price of this battle, the fallout, will be high. Specifically for those who cannot or are unwilling to turn and face that change. Why do they fight it? Well simply because they fear what they cannot see, that they cannot reach, cannot understand. Like the person who drowns the rescuer, like the dog in the burning building that bites and attacks the person trying to save it...some of us have to be left behind as we refuse to change or deal with it. This is no prophecy religion crap, it is merely a reality that is approaching mankind as a group....like it or not.
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Old 14th October 2007, 09:15 PM   #1104
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I know man..I KNOW!!

Done a little research myself, and I think I've found the definitive dissertation on the subject...

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The group of humans that exists as animalism, fear and control..is fighting it. Too bad. They are going to loose. But the price of this battle, the fallout, will be high. Specifically for those who cannot or are unwilling to turn and face that change. Why do they fight it? Well simply because they fear what they cannot see, that they cannot reach, cannot understand. Like the person who drowns the rescuer, like the dog in the burning building that bites and attacks the person trying to save it...some of us have to be left behind as we refuse to change or deal with it. This is no prophecy religion ****, it is merely a reality that is approaching mankind as a group....like it or not.
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Old 16th October 2007, 04:09 AM   #1107
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I really, really, REALLY like that last one.

Awesome. I'm still laughing.
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Old 16th October 2007, 04:40 AM   #1108
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Light bending the wrong frikin' way..oops!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1014163634.htm



I can't see myself..ieee! (will I pee all over the toilet seat? Like when I'm fumbling and drunk, in the dark?)

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Old 18th October 2007, 01:59 AM   #1110
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It was a valid question. People wonder I'm sure. We should have a billionare camera. then we'd find out. Perhaps they feel it is beneath them, and have servants wander off and do that for them. (not assist, but actually do it in their place)

Did I make it to texas? Usually my innaprorpriate posts never do. Which is a medal to wear proudly, when you think about it. "Too offensive, even for texas'. There should be T-shirts sold.
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