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Old 29th October 2004, 04:15 AM   #11
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Has anyone here gone through OCS??? Once you sign up for it, you are commited to a 6 year hitch, even if you wash out. I know all about that, almost the hard way. (Actually, the Army had something even more nefarious planned for me...........)

Howcum he was off farting around in France when his 6 years weren't up yet? That may explain his reluctance to have his complete transcript released.

Too bad he came back.............he speaks fluent French.

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Old 29th October 2004, 04:25 AM   #12
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The British "Red Coats" wore red so you couldn't see when they were wounded. The French Army wore brown trousers...need I say why.

Funny how he says wrong war etc after he voted to aurthorize it.

Coward POS will say anything and rely on the stupid uneducated democrat voter to believe his lies and be too lazy to reconcile them against the facts or even his previous statements.
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Old 29th October 2004, 11:26 AM   #13
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Brian, it's an ungodly hour of the morning here, I've only had one cup of coffee, and I'm grumpy. Why am I grumpy? Because I had to go in and manually edit your post. The obscenity filter is here for a reason and I get pretty annoyed when people try to get around it and make more work for me.

Don't make me grumpy again.
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Old 29th October 2004, 12:00 PM   #14
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sKerry is fairly consistantly a coward with no respect for the truth.
I have seldomly seen anyone in public office who is such a coward as GWB...

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"GEORGE Bush pulled out of a speech to the European Parliament when MEPs wouldn't guarantee a standing ovation.

Senior White House officials said the President would only go to Strasbourg to talk about Iraq if he had a stage-managed welcome.

A source close to negotiations said last night: "President Bush agreed to a speech but insisted he get a standing ovation like at the State of the Union address.

"His people also insisted there were no protests, or heckling.

"I believe it would be a crucial speech for Mr Bush to make in light of the opposition here to war. But unless he only gets adulation and praise, then it will never happen."

Mr Bush's every appearance in the US is stage-managed, with audiences full of supporters.

It was hoped he would speak after he welcomed Warsaw pact nations to Nato in Prague last November. But his refusal to speak to EU leaders face-to-face is seen as a key factor in the split between the US-UK coalition and Europe.
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Read the book by John O'Neil about his war record and you'll see what a coward POS he is.
John O 'Neil is a fraud if ever there was one...well maybe GW Bush beats him.


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sKerry is fairly consistantly a coward with no respect for the truth.
All men in politics lie. None have lied as much as George W Bush. Apart maybe from Clinton on his affairs with women. But George's lies affect the whole world. Clinton's were pretty benign.
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Old 29th October 2004, 12:13 PM   #15
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Presently, the top 50% earners pay 96% of the taxes...How can the second biggest liar (Kerry. 1st is obviously Clinton) say that the rich don't deserve the tax break Bush gave.
Oh, so anybody in the top 50% of wage earners is rich? LOL, that's rich!

Brian, do you know where the top 50% of wage earners starts? At just under $29,000, (2002 figures). Once you hit $29,000, you are in the top half of wage earners. That's a $14 an hour job!!

On the other hand, the top 1% of wage earners starts at $286,000.

As you can see, the guy in the top 1%, ($286,000) earns about ten times as much as the guy in the middle, ($29,000). So if you cut the tax percentage of each by 1%, the fellow at the top gets ten times the benefit as the fellow in the middle.

Largely as a result of these tax cuts benefitting the wealthy, we have gone from a budget SURPLUS under Clinton to a 422 billion dollar DEFICIT under Bush.

And you want to give this guy four more years?
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Old 29th October 2004, 12:19 PM   #16
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As far as the Bush deficits go, the worst is yet to come if we continue down this road. That deficit is covered by the Federal government borrowing money. That money has to be repaid from future budgets. In fact, we have to pay that money back-with interest-before we pay for anything else. Under Bush's father, these interest payments totalled 35% of tax revenues-over one third of your tax dollar was going to pay the interest on previous deficits!

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Clinton took office in 1993. As you can also see, he started immediately straightening everything out. He did this by cutting the deficit right away.

Now, Bush the Son is going right back to the same disastrous high deficit course his father pursued.

We can't keep going like this.
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Old 29th October 2004, 12:39 PM   #17
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Cutting marginal rates is NOT the same thing as cutting tax receipts. I don't know the numbers for the Bush tax rate cuts, but the Reagan tax rate cuts netted an increase in tax revenue. It's pretty easy to understand why from a consideration of the mean value theorem.

The deficit problem is more likely due to the enormous increase in spending. Much as the Reps would like to point to the Iraq and Afghan wars as the reason, when you take those expenditures out, spending still increased at a rate greater than it did under Clinton. With all the pork-laden bills crossing Bush's desk, his total number of vetoes was zero.

BTW, you'll note that the deficit numbers under Clinton shrunk mostly after '95. Not surprising, since that's the point at which Congress changed. With a Dem president and a Rep congress, government is too busy with intramural wrestling to do any actual damage to the economy. What we need is divided goverment and some juicy scandals. Gridlock is the American people's best friend.
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Old 29th October 2004, 12:51 PM   #18
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In defence of Bush...I think any government in the past 4 years would have a bigger deficit than the 4 years before, purely because of the lack of economic growth...which can hardly be influenced by government in the short to mid term.....even though they all to often take credit for it. For instance...I don't think President Hoover caused the great depression...but the voters punished him all the same.
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The Great Depression was brougt on, in large measure, by Smoot-Hawley, then exacerbated and lengthened by Roosevelt's domestic policies. It's all a matter of control of spending and the size of government- if the economy contracts, you just have to spend less. It's not rocket science.

Remember, in this era of lower growth, Bush initiated one of the biggest spending programs in my lifetime, designed to transfer wealth from the least wealthy demographic (the young) to the most wealthy demographic (the elderly). The motivation is pretty simple- the elderly vote at much greater rate.
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if the economy contracts, you just have to spend less. It's not rocket science.
Guess the jury is still out on that one. Spending less will cause the economy to contract even more..causing a depression instead of a recession.
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