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Old 15th July 2004, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default America bashing vs. European bashing

Well, here is my take on this.

Europe was once great and dominate politically and economically. It in no doubt is still a great place to live and raise your families.

The same can be said about the US, except that as an up and comer the US is dominating on most front, politically, economically, militarily and technologically. Past powers like France have trouble accepting that, fine. If you let the facts speak, well, you wouldn't disagree: i can buy french companies cheap, lay off its employees (through social planning), and sell them off at handsome profits by essentially instilling the US mentality / capitalism. It is not that Europeans don't like the US ways, it is just that they tend to be affraid of doing something to their status quo to get there.

The two places are different, and it is hard to argue which is better. I like the US because it is a winner-take-all society where talents are better rewarded.

I would have loved the quality of life in Europe but if I don't work 60-hour weeks here, somebody else will and I will be out of a job.

Take the silly example of who pollutes more. Have you ever noticed how good the paints on your MB or BMW are? Well, that comes at a price too: europeans use mostly solvent-based paint. They are very harm to discharge. But they are absolutely beautiful to look at, and last forever.

Most US manufacturers on the other hand have switched to water-based paint in the mid to late 1990s, because of environmental concerns associated with oil paint.

People will just have to accept the reality that our life style (or life style choices) is different and stop proclaiming one's superiority and let others live their separate lives.
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Old 16th July 2004, 08:18 PM   #2
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Not that's funny! I love the schtick about the US being more environmentally friendly than Germany!
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Old 16th July 2004, 08:54 PM   #3
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Not that's funny! I love the schtick about the US being more environmentally friendly than Germany!
I know, it can be challenging to simple minds that the world is a lot more complicated than what a simple blanket statement can cover. It turns out that on even simple subjects like environmental protection, one country will be better than others in one area and worse in others.

I know that can be very hard to understand. Sorry for that.
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I know, it can be challenging to simple minds that the world is a lot more complicated than what a simple blanket statement can cover.
Ohhh! I get it! So when you went ahead and did an evaluation of pro's vs con's according to millwood, you were pointing out to the Europeans that some of what they have is good! I'm sure they'll sleep better at night knowing some of it looks good to you.

I still love that 60 hrs/week schtick. It reminds me of what recruiters coach you to say during a job interview. "When they ask you to name one of your weaknesses, say: 'I work too hard.'"
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Old 17th July 2004, 12:36 AM   #5
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I still love that 60 hrs/week schtick.
it is a choice that I have made. I opt to make more money over living an easy life. Everyone of us makes similar choices, nothing to be ashamed of.

Actually, more often than not, I work more than 60hrs a week. as long as I am happy, i don't give a rat's rear-end how others think.
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Old 17th July 2004, 05:42 AM   #6
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Still, a few points apply(regarding the environment):
- people of what countries are more responsible?
- what country is the biggest polluter?
- what country refuses to implement drastic changes regarding pollution?
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'Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated'.
Simple questions are the hardest to answer, but not in this case.

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Old 17th July 2004, 07:45 PM   #8
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hey millwood, what matters most: a car sold in max 250k or an entire nation?
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Old 18th July 2004, 01:05 AM   #9
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those "facts" and examples in the first posting agains show what kind of "truth" is "true" in the USA, or at least sold as truth to poor minded people like the poster.... those informations given as facts in that posting are mostly not true.
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There is little point trying to have a rational debate with millwood. He simply cannot see beyond his live-to-work ideology.
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