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Old 5th May 2004, 04:00 AM   #11
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Old 6th May 2004, 08:20 PM   #13
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Imagine a company that has a little more than 300 employees
and has the following statistics:
30 have been accused of spousal abuse;

Cut....

Well, in Italy the Prime minister OWNs:
- 3 national tv
- 4 different newspapers
- 1 soccer team
- variuos radio broadcasting stations
and...
- controls the other 3 national TV (public)

ouch... almost forgot. We have 7 nation-wide TV and the 7th have something like the 2% share.

Do you think that the information it's ok here?

Anyway, he is indagated by the law for several issues, but his government emanated a law that avoid to be liable about those kind of facts (specially the antitrust and conflict of interest)

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Well, in Italy the Prime minister OWNs:
- 3 national tv
- 4 different newspapers
- 1 soccer team
- variuos radio broadcasting stations
and...
- controls the other 3 national TV (public)

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Does Italy have a law that sayd rich people owning tv stations and newpapers cannot be elected to office?

If you have a problem with his ownership of media assets, it seems to me that you ought to install such a law to prohibit elected officials from owning media assets (or being rich or whatever).

Last I checked, our constitution did not ban rich people from running public officies.

But it is possible that in other societies, some people are more equal than others.
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Old 6th May 2004, 09:02 PM   #15
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Does Italy have a law that sayd rich people owning tv stations and newpapers cannot be elected to office?

Obviously not.

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If you have a problem with his ownership of media assets, it seems to me that you ought to install such a law to prohibit elected officials from owning media assets (or being rich or whatever).
The problem are not about his richness or his possessions, but about the use of this information he does.

You can't have at the same time more than one power. this is the conflict of interest.

He promulgate some laws to defeat the law-issues on his duty, he promulgate some laws to defeat some issues about the circulation of money from abroad of his industries...
The sad is that the list can continue.

WIth all this information power he can diffuse the news as he like and not as the news are in reality. You know for sure that we live in a world were information is the key of control.

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Aside from that, I personally paid more taxes than Cisco did during one of those internet-crazy years (2000 or 2001 as I recall). and I wasn't kidding.
Unwritten motto of taxation department - 'All Your Money Are Belong To Us.'
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Well, in Italy the Prime minister OWNs:
- 3 national tv
- 4 different newspapers
- 1 soccer team
- variuos radio broadcasting stations
and...
- controls the other 3 national TV (public)

ouch... almost forgot. We have 7 nation-wide TV and the 7th have something like the 2% share.

Do you think that the information it's ok here?

Anyway, he is indagated by the law for several issues, but his government emanated a law that avoid to be liable about those kind of facts (specially the antitrust and conflict of interest)

bye,
I thought the laws he passed only protected him while he was still in office. And to be fair Berlusconi all he's done is cut out the middle man. You only have watch Blair grinning obsequiously at anyone with a quid or two in their pockets to know Berlusconi is not unique.
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Corporations.
And through patent and copyright law and lobbying, they take away more of our rights everyday.
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Corporations.
And through patent and copyright law and lobbying, they take away more of our rights everyday.
Too right. How dare they take away your rights to someone else's work.
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During the 1980's in Australia there was this fellow named Paul Keating (whose name BTW wasn't recognised by MS Word so it suggested "cheating" ) who was the Federal Treasurer and later became Prime Minister. He was an avid collector of 16th century cuckoo clocks, and I heard someone on the radio at that time say that oddly enough, there was no sales tax on these clocks...
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