terrorist?

[fdegrove]

Hi,

A bit of selection and editing can make things look like whatever the producer would like it to.

True but it cuts both ways...

If you ever have the chance to read John Waters' essay on teaching a film course at the state penitentiary, I'd recommend it- it's reprinted in the book "Crackpot."

I agree that it's certainly a must read.
Unfortunately projects like that should be the norm rather than the exception one feels worthy of writing a book about.

Rumsfeld's body language is also telling me that he's lieing and damn well knows it too...

So, Phred, can you please change your avatar back to something I don't feel like strangling everytime I look at it?

Cheers,

[millwood]

Originally posted by fdegrove
Rumsfeld's body language is also telling me that he's lieing and damn well knows it too...

Cheers,

sounds like we have a winner here: why pay all those professionals and spend millions to dig up evidence when we can have our beloved fdegrove who can tell who is lieing by simply watching their body language?

What a win-win situation.

[fdegrove]

Hi,

What a win-win situation.

True....you can put me on that payroll if you must.

[Christer]

But Frank probably doesn't want to work for the Bush regime
so if you employ him, he might lie, and who is then to tell if
Frank is actually telling the truth about who is lying and not?

[SY]

so if you employ him, he might lie, and who is then to tell if Frank is actually telling the truth about who is lying and not?

Norman, coordinate.

[Christer]

Originally posted by SY


Norman, coordinate.

I'm afraid you have to explain that joke to me (assuming it
was a joke, that is, but in either case, I didn't get it).

[hags]

Originally Posted by fdegrove

Hi,



From what we've been shown on the news channels it looks as if U.S criminals that get caught and sent to prison not only get punished for their actions but by the same token also lose all their rights as a human being.

At least that's what it looks like....
Makes me wonder why they bother to put them in prison at all, the chance of those guys ever functioning normally in society must be close to nihil and they'd still cost society a ton of money too.

That POWs receive a similar treatment doesn't come as a big surprise then.

They're really setting high standards, those people that are bound to free the world from dictators and terrorists...

Cheers,

You gotta love this warped world view, especially from Europe.

Yes, the prisoners over here I treated so badly that they now have condom machines in the San Francisco County jail. The U.S. taxpayers bend over backwards for murderers, rapists, kiddy diddlers, theives, terrorists and oh yeah the defense of the free world during the cold war.

They are in prison to pay a debt to society, not for any kind of rehabilitation. It's called punishment.

They don't function normally in society because of a multitude of factors.

As far as President Bush goes, I'd have him back in a heartbeat to replace the clown that's now in office. Obama is so far in over his head it isn't funny.

Look up House Joint Resolution 114, it was Congress who determined Iraq had WMDs. The rest of the world was convinced Iraq had WMDs and just about everyone in Congress was in support of the war, including the clowns that are now in the White House.

You can forget this revisionist history that's taking place now, it's crap. The only ignorance and fear I see is when people don't take responsibility for their own decisions and actions.

History will be the judge of President Bush, and already it's starting to look good.

[mach1]

This stat never ceases to amaze me.

While 1 out of every 142 Americans is now actually in prison, 1 out of every 32 of us is either in prison or on parole from prison, according to yet another report on Americans behaving badly from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
This means that 6.7 million adult men and women -- about 3.1 percent of the total U.S. adult population -- are now very non-voluntary members of America's "correctional community."]

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/census...a/aainjail.htm

Around 115 Australians per 100,000 of population are in jail. This compares with: New Zealand 155, UK 141, Germany 100, Spain 138, Canada 116, South Africa 400, USA 700.

http://www.australiafacts.org

Why does a nation see fit to incarcerate such a large proportion of its population ?

[hags]

Originally Posted by mach1

This stat never ceases to amaze me.



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compared with



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Why does a nation see fit to incarcerate such a large proportion of its population ?

'cause they broke the law maybe?

[Variac]

Ahhhh.....This thread seems to be from the good ole days when political discussion was allowed on diyAudio....

Now it no longer is..