Actually technology , medicine etc. and divinity are really headed for the same goal.
When we completely understand and utilise our energies we will be able to communicate without RF or wires and cure or suppress illnesses by ourselves and also control our 'birth rate' .
Maybe birth rate has to do with fragmentation of impure souls ! So the worse we get the higher the number of people that are born ! The souls ( energy centers have no shape or size) will start to coalesce into larger (?) and less number of energy centers and keep declining in numbers as they all keep getting more refined ...if they do ! Apparently not now on Planet Earth !
But as the capabilities of humans keep improving the dependance on 'technology' will keep declining as they can do without them as time goes by ! But this direction is also in the direction of divinity .....nothing to do with religion of any sort. It does make sense .
So Michio Kaku's statement "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from divinity" does appear to be correct.
That ultimate state will not have any material technology, we would have overcome the need for it !
Telepathy would be the activation of our ability to cross the 'web' of consciousness of ALL 'beings' and probably will only happen when all negative forces are eliminated ! Nature must have taken precautions after having seen our stockpile of armaments on this planet !
The ability to tap into all energies of the world would lead to becoming 'all knowing' by which you can know anything in this Universe and do anything it wants. But most likely there are checks and balances so that such a capability will not be achievable with negative intentions ! The Forces that be , cannot take the risk of being hoodwinked by F16's, Nuclear bombs etc.
Basically the current Human " Urge to take over control of everything in sight " !
Sheesh, After so many thousands of years we are actually declining mentally !
Nature created everything. So if one of it's forms is destroying it, it will most likely destroy that form to prevent everything else from being ruined forever.
To see our progress look at school children and people who rule the world.
In school if you lie you are in very big trouble !
When you are in a state of power you wear snazzy clothes sit in snazzy places and travel in incredibly idiotically protected vehicles . Then with a LOT of pomp and glory they sit across the ornate tables and smile at each other nicely and lie through their teeth about an increasing number of things every year.
The best part is everyone knows they are lying , but it just goes on and on ............it runs the bean counters !
" Intelligent Humans ? "
Only one of it's kind in this Universe ? Oh boy , that is really sad !
When we completely understand and utilise our energies we will be able to communicate without RF or wires and cure or suppress illnesses by ourselves and also control our 'birth rate' .
Maybe birth rate has to do with fragmentation of impure souls ! So the worse we get the higher the number of people that are born ! The souls ( energy centers have no shape or size) will start to coalesce into larger (?) and less number of energy centers and keep declining in numbers as they all keep getting more refined ...if they do ! Apparently not now on Planet Earth !
But as the capabilities of humans keep improving the dependance on 'technology' will keep declining as they can do without them as time goes by ! But this direction is also in the direction of divinity .....nothing to do with religion of any sort. It does make sense .
So Michio Kaku's statement "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from divinity" does appear to be correct.
That ultimate state will not have any material technology, we would have overcome the need for it !
Telepathy would be the activation of our ability to cross the 'web' of consciousness of ALL 'beings' and probably will only happen when all negative forces are eliminated ! Nature must have taken precautions after having seen our stockpile of armaments on this planet !
The ability to tap into all energies of the world would lead to becoming 'all knowing' by which you can know anything in this Universe and do anything it wants. But most likely there are checks and balances so that such a capability will not be achievable with negative intentions ! The Forces that be , cannot take the risk of being hoodwinked by F16's, Nuclear bombs etc.
Basically the current Human " Urge to take over control of everything in sight " !
Sheesh, After so many thousands of years we are actually declining mentally !
Nature created everything. So if one of it's forms is destroying it, it will most likely destroy that form to prevent everything else from being ruined forever.
To see our progress look at school children and people who rule the world.
In school if you lie you are in very big trouble !
When you are in a state of power you wear snazzy clothes sit in snazzy places and travel in incredibly idiotically protected vehicles . Then with a LOT of pomp and glory they sit across the ornate tables and smile at each other nicely and lie through their teeth about an increasing number of things every year.
The best part is everyone knows they are lying , but it just goes on and on ............it runs the bean counters !
" Intelligent Humans ? "
Only one of it's kind in this Universe ? Oh boy , that is really sad !
If you look at it deeply, there is no 'death' at all. Only bodily death which in any case is not as important as the consciousness that uses it to interact in the physical world. Like a car driver and the car. The car can keep getting replaced but the driver remains the same.
So the consciousness ( the real part of you !) never ever dies. That makes sense. Now everything you do or have done matters completely . So if you do the right things ( you have to learn what they are !) you benefit from them , if you do the wrong things you pay for it but you still join back on the road to infinity .....just that you will take a longer time since you took a bad diversion !
Eventually everyone can get to the glorious end no matter who or what they are. Very fair and a great scheme ! You can never lose out !
THE FORCE is not a cheap skate ! Equally and unconditionally fair to 'everyone' !
So the consciousness ( the real part of you !) never ever dies. That makes sense. Now everything you do or have done matters completely . So if you do the right things ( you have to learn what they are !) you benefit from them , if you do the wrong things you pay for it but you still join back on the road to infinity .....just that you will take a longer time since you took a bad diversion !
Eventually everyone can get to the glorious end no matter who or what they are. Very fair and a great scheme ! You can never lose out !
THE FORCE is not a cheap skate ! Equally and unconditionally fair to 'everyone' !
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The (almost) only problem I have with SB's letter... If you are stating the obvious, do you really need to quote e.g. Richard Dawkins? Especially since those words aren't particularly eloquent nor profound.
This thread merely confirms for me that a significant portion of the population are deficient in understanding the concept of scientific proof. Which of necessity extends to proof in general.
This thread merely confirms for me that a significant portion of the population are deficient in understanding the concept of scientific proof. Which of necessity extends to proof in general.
James Randi challenge is the greatest hoax of allI'll be waiting for test results from the James Randi Challenge -
The only reason I can think of that Telepathy could exist but not be possible to prove or detect, is it takes place not within the four dimensions we use.
Regards
M. Gregg
Bingo!
The ancient belief that ALL humans ( And inanimate objects!) are connected all the time via energy links is still being debated. A lot of people are accepting it as it explains a lot of 'as yet' unexplained phenomena.
We certainly don't have an answer for that now !
Karl Jung taught this
can tell
I have vivid telekinesis skills.
All the way overhere, I can smell what you've been drinking.
And it's DBT guaranteed, I have a written affidavit that I need a nose transplant.
Biological computer and genetic engineering..we are only talking the transmission medium.
Already done.
Petri dish of brain cells flies flight simulator.
Extracts - "Brain" In A Dish Acts As Autopilot Living Computer
PS - for something that is non-existent , the military makes use of it ?
OS
Yes, look at the sad tale of the Quadro Tracker scam in the US and the ATSC scam in Great Britain.
Head of bomb detector company arrested in fraud investigation | Crime | News | The Independent
Jacques Vallee Ted Talk: The theory of everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0
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Scammers are like politicians, they're shameless and ... oh, that's veering into verboten area, I better not go there.Boy With Autism Saves Classmate With Heimlich, Says He Learned It on 'SpongeBob' | NBC Southern California
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looks like the scammers are quitting, b4 they are exposed for what they are ...
That statement appears a little cantankerous (resisting use of the T word), but I'll bite. Do you have any evidence to support that claim?James Randi challenge is the greatest hoax of all
Speaking of topics comina back around, James Randi's organization tested (they've tested a "major paranormal [or otherwise over-the-top] claim" every year for a while now - this may be the last such test they do) this claim earlier this year - I don't recall if it was a topic on DIYaudio yet:
Ars prepares to put ?audiophile? Ethernet cables to the test in Las Vegas | Ars Technica
A book titled “Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe“ contains a notion that life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever.
The author of this publication, scientist Dr. Robert Lanza who was voted the 3rd most important scientist alive by the NY Times, has no doubts that this is possible.
Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of Advanced Cell Technology Company.
Before he has been known for his extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.
But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics, quantum mechanics and astrophysics.
This explosive mixture has given birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been preaching ever since.
Jame's Randi's scientific challenge is so distorted that it is proven to be invalid for any form of scientific investigation. Period. Multiple research scientists who's work revolves around scientific proofing studies have looked at his criteria and denounced it as fundamentally crackpot. Look it up. Example: If you used his criteria for any medical research, all tests done with it would come out negative. No drug or procedure would ever be approved or used. This is a real and serious claim. zero would have passed his criteria. it is wholly invalid as a proofing regimen goes. 110% invalid.
James Randi and his foundation is a method of holding the spell on the 'troops', much like some given faux news networks are designed to keep the given viewers on the sauce/crack, so to speak. Gotta keep the spell on the crew or the cover story slips. Gotta keep the spell on the troops, keep them well fed with the 'vision' keep them in line...so they go and perform hits on people, kinda like, well.... exactly like on boards like this one.
Something designed to keep control over people who are full of fear and misguided ideas on logic and scientific exploration.
Wouldn't want people to get off the farm now, would we.
Read my signature.
Quantum science tells you that the 3d time based Newtonian world is a ghost world made up of the original quantum functions, quantum functions which are outside of time and hyper-dimensional.
You figure it out.
Basically, the most intelligent people in the world don't have a problem with the idea of quantum science and the multidimensional timeless aspects that it engenders - understandings that are hiding in the idea and expression of what an atomic structure is. They all keep going there, all these highly intelligent people with their quick and open minds...they all end up getting there.
The problem is the more limited scope of people in the middle, the bulk of the people. Not all of them, but some. Some... that are so insistent and so misguided that they project it as an enforced control on all around them, on all people around them. The question then turns to the why.... why do they do it.
Knowledge is power. Withheld knowledge.... is power structure.
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Interesting thread...especially the link to Susan Blackmore's resignation letter which I found quite moving in a way. I happen to be reading, or should I say, re reading her book
'The Meme Machine' which is a very interesting book and is quite pertinent to what is being discussed here.
I personally believe that humans have a deep flaw that both helps us and hinders us at the same time. And that flaw is the manifestation of our ego that puts us outside of physics and on to a 'higher plane' of existence than everything else, and that allows us to believe we will live forever without our bodies when we die. We cannot comprehend non-existence in the same way as we cannot comprehend infinity so we have to fill the gap with something that helps us deal with it.
'The Meme Machine' which is a very interesting book and is quite pertinent to what is being discussed here.
I personally believe that humans have a deep flaw that both helps us and hinders us at the same time. And that flaw is the manifestation of our ego that puts us outside of physics and on to a 'higher plane' of existence than everything else, and that allows us to believe we will live forever without our bodies when we die. We cannot comprehend non-existence in the same way as we cannot comprehend infinity so we have to fill the gap with something that helps us deal with it.
Interesting thread...We cannot comprehend non-existence in the same way as we cannot comprehend infinity so we have to fill the gap with something that helps us deal with it.
That's an interesting comment..think about it!
On one hand..what does it mean to comprehend...how strong is the will to survive?
On the other hand..is oblivion..and infinity.
Regards
M. Gregg
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You sure have a thing for that projection concept.
Don't try reading it as an actual technical argument, read it as poetry, at which Ken is very skilled.
When someone starts throwing around quantum mechanical concepts, ask a simple question: "If a particle is in a tilted well of width A, with a potential energy of E0 on on side, E1, on the other, varying linearly between the two sides, and infinite everywhere else, what does the differential equation describing the stationary states look like and what are the eigenfunctions?"
If someone can't do that simple problem, they are speaking from sheer ignorance. (This is actually a decent first order description of an electron in a heterodiatomic molecule)
what does the differential equation describing the stationary states look like and what are the eigenfunctions?"
Eigenvalues are evil. Not difficult to calculate but I never grasped their application, bloody did my head in. Hahahahaha
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