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Old 25th December 2013, 10:59 PM   #1
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Default Interesting observations of YouTube recordings.

I was watching the following clip of what I consider to be a gorgeous sound system. It has pretty decent camera sound, in fact it sounds pretty good on my end for a camera.
western electric 15A "small" SATO-Horn JBL 2420 Klipsch La Scala FOSTEX FT65H - YouTube

That naturally got my thinking what the track would sound like coming straight from my computer. (Just an MP3 of it, not a recording of another stereo)
Charly Antolini - Cabriolet - 1981 - YouTube

The result is disappointing. lol Now I know that the fellow probably had a better copy then the video I linked, but I don't think it could be that much better.

Perhaps it's just the mojo of that guys systems, I bet it is a ripping good system to experience in person.

Anyhow I don't have a point other then to share my amusement and to see if anyone else has a similar experience to mine by watching the two videos.

Is that stereo just that awesome?

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Old 25th December 2013, 11:25 PM   #2
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With my just completed "proof of concept" set-up on my PC, the first video sounds just like one coming into a club, the acoustics changing as you wander thru the club...only thing missing is the background locals chatting.
Since I completed my POC for my PC, I've noticed rather starkly the vast differences in on-line (YT) music. Poor recordings vs. 'Good' ones. The good recordings are slowly displacing the poor ones....same as the good HD videos are pushing out the poor ones.


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Old 25th December 2013, 11:36 PM   #3
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I agree the videos are getting better.

Man those horns have some pop on the drums in the first though video eh?

Despite the camcorder deficiencies, that system sounds more dynamic then the "original" track.
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Old 25th December 2013, 11:42 PM   #4
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Yes, the first video has a 'particular' sound we seem to know ...perhaps on a subconscious level that we would 'matter-of-fact' feel the impacts on our body. Something the second track doesn't possess. Do you know what I mean??

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Old 26th December 2013, 12:10 AM   #5
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Absolutely, here is another excellent example.

This one might even give the goosebumps. It overloads the microphone at a few points.

DIY Western Electric 15A horns ll - YouTube

It's the horns, I must have some.
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Old 26th December 2013, 07:48 PM   #6
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Yes, I did notice the mic overload...There must be a way of building these monster horns....without having to be a master wood craftsman.
Perhaps using fiberglass chopper guns, same way as boat molds ( & hulls) are made. Something that is repeatable, not a one-off. If one cannot share the creation, what's the point? The trouble I see is, individuals "wanting" to use antique/vintage drivers....driving the costs up & out of sight.
Once you get the process down & making duplicates gets going faster & faster...some out their will be breaking down your door trying to get one. You'd have people harassing you day & night declaring PINO!(price is no object)
Let's keep it on the low-down...but one does need the "blueprints" to make the mold first.

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Old 26th December 2013, 08:08 PM   #7
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How would you mold them? In lateral halves?
On the W.E. horns the throat was metal for the first 18~24", iirc. It was the transition from round exit to rectangular horn. You gotta get that right, too.

I'm not convinced that fiberglass would sound the best, but haven't heard them in fiberglass.
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Old 26th December 2013, 08:25 PM   #8
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Yes, 'sliced' down the middle, two 'mirror' halves.
When I was a teenager I helped "Glass' a large boat, messy in the extreme. With the advent of chopper guns, building up glass structures has shortened fabrication time immensely. The days of laying out mat & 'gooing' it in, ..another layer, repeat,repeat, repeat really gets old very fast. So much time & effort expended really kills the enthusiasm. Behold...the gun!
Being as we REALLY don't care much about how the outside of the horn looks, why not? I'd more than likely want to enclose the horn somewhat on the outside anyway! My brother-in-law has also done glass work too......I'll pick his brain.


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Old 26th December 2013, 08:30 PM   #9
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I could make some.

Making a mold and fiberglass, as you say to be repeatable, is a good idea.
I had not considered that approach.

Although I admit wanting to build some out of wood, perhaps this need could be fulfilled and simplified by building one singular mold(s).

One could assume a different sound from fiberglass which may or may not be a bad thing. It may also be able to compensate or tune the horn by applying extra fiberglass in selected areas.
Textured surfaces could be molded to the inside as well.

I have started researching designs, it might make sense to focus on a slightly smaller sized horn like the Sato as having the bucks for a compression driver that can go low enough to take advantage of the 15A s larger size is pricey.

I am also looking into bendable plywoods. It would be nice to get it through the company that supplies my employer with lumber.

Something like layers 2 layers of 2 ply Birch, perhaps with a layer of cardstock type paper in between.

Though challenging, the project is exciting for me as I don't get to work with flexible sheetgoods very often.
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if my bass guitar sounded like that I would break it in half and throw it away

sorry about that

but is that good sound
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