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Old 28th October 2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default EU Directive coming on Class-A Amplifiers?

Looks like they've banned the Hoover -- a large energy sucking device. Are Class A amplifiers next:

Another European Directive That Really Sucks…EU Now Banning “Energy-Hungry” Home Appliances
Old 28th October 2013, 01:21 PM   #2
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but they cant ban the diy ones
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Old 28th October 2013, 01:35 PM   #3
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I suspect Vacuum Tube Amplifier sales are below the noise level for bureaucrats to take notice of their efficiency (or lack thereof).

If they ever take notice, it won't be just the class A amplifiers. All of them are terribly inefficient compared to SS amps and the attitude is such tat I would expect all vacuum tube amps to be banned. They won't say Vacuum Tube amps, they will ban amps below a certain efficiency. an efficiency limit of 80% or more would do the job nicely.
Old 30th October 2013, 07:17 AM   #4
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Don't give them any ideas, or all that will be left is class D and ear buds, as speakers ate too inefficient.
Old 4th November 2013, 01:39 AM   #5
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Have no headaches if they ever ban all loudspeakers other than horns.

More seriuously spoken, no wonder at all noone likes Brussel bureaucracy.
They've stolen us light bulbs while giving us DIN ISO certified bananas,
they plan do make cars more expensive and limit vacuum cleaners to 900W.

Following this logic it's indeed a matter of time when they ban tube and
class A amps.
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Old 4th November 2013, 04:35 PM   #6
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You know, looking at it as just "Brussels' bureaucracy" going crazy is probably not giving the full story. Neither looking at it as just an environmental measure.

It is highly likely that such a rule is coming from the pressure of European vacuum cleaners makers (Miele, Philips), that are able to produce relatively efficient machines, more so than the cheaper alternatives from China.
Old 5th November 2013, 12:28 AM   #7
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I can remember light bulbs.
You can still buy real ones but they have to have "for industrial use only" printed on them.
We will have to keep all our old vacuum cleaners going. Just don't buy ones with all those complicated plastic bits on them so that they last. Those crippled things will make the job take longer and use the same amount of power.
The did the same with water saving toilets and you have to wait for the water and flush again so they just waste time without saving any water.
Keep the old ones of all those for sure.
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EU energy-saving rules cut power of vacuum cleaners - Telegraph What goes next, clothes dryers?
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Old 5th November 2013, 04:13 AM   #9
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The light bulbs is a scam. Follow the money behind it. 100W light bulb or a 5KW heater. Seems to me that if reducing energy usage was the motivation, simply turning down the heater a few degrees would make a much larger contribution. Along those lines, repairing old window and door seals would save waaayyyyy more energy than replacing 100W incandescent bulb with one of those damn mercury containing florescent flashy things that give me a headache.
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Politicians (of all flavours) always want to be seen to be doing something, anything - however irrelevant it is to the actual problem (real or perceived). They are not too bothered what it is, provided they can convince a few journalists to write about it - as journalists need to write something, anything, and most of them don't know how to go out and find and understand a story so they just want to be spoon-fed press releases.

Bureaucrats can be worse than politicians; we can vote out politicians. A good bureaucrat can have so much self-belief that he feels he can rewrite the laws of physics and chemistry. As (probably) an arts graduate he 'knows' that all this stuff is merely a social construct (as vacuous as his own studies) so need not be regarded as a constraint in pursuing The Grand Plan of forcing citizens to enjoy life just as he believes they should.

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