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Old 9th August 2013, 03:03 PM   #11
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My issue with salt n pepper grinders is the fact that so few people seem to have the ability of comprehending why it is not working. When you take the top off the grinder the shaft drops down a little way allowing whole pepper corns or salt crystals to gather between the grinding mechanism parts so when you try to re-assemble the grinder the pepper corns/salt prevent the gap from closing sufficiently for a fine grind. Invert, turn top, and tighten. Duh!

Plunging type coffee pots offer a taxing problem to some folk as well; how many times have I watched someone trying to force the plunger down when the coffee granules have not settled to the bottom. Coffee granules will sink when they are ready or maybe after a quick stir and then the plunger will swiftly go down with little effort at all. If they have not sunk, the coffee is not ready and they will quite readily block the gauze plunger preventing it from being plunged! Duh! Yeah, go ahead and force it down and spray yourself with hot coffee...why not.
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Old 9th August 2013, 07:56 PM   #12
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My issue with salt n pepper grinders is the fact that so few people seem to have the ability of comprehending why it is not working. When you take the top off the grinder the shaft drops down a little way allowing whole pepper corns or salt crystals to gather between the grinding mechanism parts so when you try to re-assemble the grinder the pepper corns/salt prevent the gap from closing sufficiently for a fine grind. Invert, turn top, and tighten. Duh!
The shaft on my pepper mill does not drop when I unscrew the top.
No need to invert, turn top and tighten, all it needs is filling and reassembly.
It always grinds medium fine.
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Old 9th August 2013, 08:21 PM   #13
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Interesting. In every car I have owned there is just one heat knob which appears to set the exit temperature of the air, or possibly not even that but the amount of heat put into it. Except on the very coldest days it needs turning down once the car interior has warmed up.

Perhaps some people just think that all temperature setting knobs must work in the same way? I once had to explain to my sister that setting an oven to 200C would not make it heat up any faster to 160C than setting it at 160C. I'm not sure she was convinced.

Yah, same thing just, one for left and right. You set the temp you want per side and it blows or not cools or heats etc.

Bingo on the oven! Now pretend she's in it, sets it to 200deg it gets there, then gets mad cause its hot, then sets it at 3deg ..... Then gets mad cause its cold!!!!!

And its my fault cause I wanted complacated hvac in our car.
All the time this is going on I'm snugg as a bug you see.

Now! I must say, my wife is one of the smartest persons I've ever known.
I think thermostats are her kriptonite!
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Old 10th August 2013, 12:45 AM   #14
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Unscrew the top fill with salt/ pepper, screw the top back on and then.....here comes the technical bit;
turn the grinder "upside down" and turn the top whilst observing the grinding wheel in the base to ensure no lumps of salt or hole pepper corns are preventing the mechanism to close properly. Adjust accordingly with the screw holding the top on, (this time the right way up,) and not over your food. Tighten screw to make a finer grind and un tighten for a courser grind.
Crikey, that's really complicated and difficult coming so soon after the trauma of filling, when the peppercorns bounced off the spindle and shot all over the kitchen.

I'd recommend my grinder if I could identify it. It's a simple cylinder with a rotating base. Filling is at the top just like a jar...there's no spindle to get in the way or need re-adjusting. The adjuster is at the bottom, so you naturally turn it upside down to adjust. I've never needed to in about 15yrs.

All beautiful plastic and ceramic...no metal in sight.

I assumed when I bought it that it would be the future, but apparently not. Maybe no-one could figure out how to use them?

Anyway, it's an example of the difference between a designer and an engineer, perhaps. The engineer blames the user for being stupid, whereas the designer blames the engineer.
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Old 10th August 2013, 01:17 AM   #15
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the only thing I salt is pizza crust or bread dough. with hydrochlorothiazide you wanna p every time you're not moving.
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Old 10th August 2013, 01:43 PM   #16
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I wouldn't buy anything other than a Peugeot mill.

I've had mine in daily use for over 10 years, it never let me down, never clogged and never needed adjustment.

Can't go wrong with Peugeot pepper mills and Dualit toasters. I will eventually leave them to my children.



I never got the point of a salt mill. It's not as if salt loses flavour in smaller crystals.
A few grains of rice keep it from forming clumps when you put it in a shaker.
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Old 10th August 2013, 02:35 PM   #17
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I much prefer salt from a grinder. I don't know if it is because the rock salt used is different to the salt that goes into your normal "table salt" packet, or because it is ground (and generally finer) than the crystals in table salt. But I definitely prefer it from the grinder!

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I once had to explain to my sister that setting an oven to 200C would not make it heat up any faster to 160C than setting it at 160C. I'm not sure she was convinced.
Your sister might not be a dummy. When an oven reaches it's intended temperature and shuts off for the first time, it hasn't really pre heated. You need to leave it at that temperature for a good 10 or 20 minutes after it has indicated it is ready or the whole of the oven is not warm enough to compensate for when you open the door. It will cycle again for longer if you don't pre heat it for a decent amount of time. If you are in a hurry, you simply turn it up a little higher than you want. The preheating portion is therefore faster.

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Never seen it any other way, probably continental differences.
Interesting, I was looking for that configuration but couldn't find it. Can you show me?
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I have no idea to what end people might do that.
You referred to prematurely wearing the felt. I have no idea how that would happen unless you are racking the balls incorrectly.
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Old 10th August 2013, 11:26 PM   #20
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According to wiki the centre of the apex ball goes on the foot spot.

Never watched a pool tournament but in the UK and in Germany everybody I watched playing and every time I played it was the centre of the 8 ball.


They are very touchy about their felt here, during a snooker tournament the tables are recovered and shaved regularly. I'd guess it is of equal if not greater importance for three-cushion billiards but that game is well beyond my own limited abilities and pocket-less tables are even rarer in the UK than snooker tables in Europe.
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