You probably missed my comment that the latest Star Trek movie had all the surround cues in the two channels even on a Kindle, these are well known fool the ears techniques. I gave up on >2 ch years ago.
I enjoy 5-channel reproduction for movies, plus a sub under the floor. Do you control the recording process? I don't.
No just that the THX tricks for encoding fake rear channels in two channels are enough for me. Have you ever been to a demo? Bob adams demoed for me a couple of op-amps, R's, C's, and a pot that could put a voice almost anywhere in 360 degrees with two channels. Besides home theater induces ennui for me.
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I need a centre channel for dialogue. If I turn up the film loud enough to hear what people are saying, the FX is rediculously overpowered, even with the TV set to enhance vocals. And the explosions trip the overly sensitive protection circuit on the 'temporary' amp that has been temporary for 2 years now.
Once I get the miniDSP in and commissioned it should be easy enough to program that in so that it gets over things.
Once I get the miniDSP in and commissioned it should be easy enough to program that in so that it gets over things.
Control vs Kaos
Sometimes I think it's hard to get home theatre right.
I laughed out loud, several years ago, while reading an article on a custom installation.
A test run was going, featuring the movie, The Doors.
The client told the installers to bring up the rear channels, 3 or 4 db.
The installer replied that evey level was calibrated correctly.
The client replied, I'm Oliver Stone, and I made this movie. The rear channels need 3 or 4 db to sound the way it was mixed.
Now, THAT'S controlling the process.
I find it diffcult to get the best out of 2 speakers in a room.
I just couldn't get convincing sound out of each of 7 identical satellites in my room, and I am guessing that's why I prefer 2 channel.
A far easier thing to set up, placement wise, for accurate playback to the listening positions.
With pink noise, in my symmetrically setup 7.1 , each speaker didn't quite timbre match, due to interacting with the room from different locations.
Subliminally, maybe this was a distraction from suspending disbelief for films.
Sometimes I think it's hard to get home theatre right.
I laughed out loud, several years ago, while reading an article on a custom installation.
A test run was going, featuring the movie, The Doors.
The client told the installers to bring up the rear channels, 3 or 4 db.
The installer replied that evey level was calibrated correctly.
The client replied, I'm Oliver Stone, and I made this movie. The rear channels need 3 or 4 db to sound the way it was mixed.
Now, THAT'S controlling the process.
I find it diffcult to get the best out of 2 speakers in a room.
I just couldn't get convincing sound out of each of 7 identical satellites in my room, and I am guessing that's why I prefer 2 channel.
A far easier thing to set up, placement wise, for accurate playback to the listening positions.
With pink noise, in my symmetrically setup 7.1 , each speaker didn't quite timbre match, due to interacting with the room from different locations.
Subliminally, maybe this was a distraction from suspending disbelief for films.
Having read Earl Geddes book (available for free) on building a home theatre room I concur that it's non trivial when you have to work with a living space. As I can't even fit the speakers in my room, let alone optimise I'll be happy with ignorance 
Btw don't believe the Oliver Stone story, but it's a nice story
Btw don't believe the Oliver Stone story, but it's a nice story
Having read Earl Geddes book (available for free) on building a home theatre room I concur that it's non trivial when you have to work with a living space. As I can't even fit the speakers in my room, let alone optimise I'll be happy with ignorance
Btw don't believe the Oliver Stone story, but it's a nice story
Found it with Google.
Sound and Vision
April 4 2007
Oliver Stone's radical cinema.
I didn't recall it verbatim, but pretty much correctly. Read it if you choose.
guess he was more concerned with the "experience"
than with the visual, etc, which he at least "shot", himself
thank god for the sound man, or we all would have had a "subpar" experience.
or did we, anyway.
a little sparcasm [sic sic] pointed at the above would sit fine with me.
apologies for my entries elsewhere on the site,
if any were taken the wrong way,
Quard
than with the visual, etc, which he at least "shot", himself
thank god for the sound man, or we all would have had a "subpar" experience.
or did we, anyway.
a little sparcasm [sic sic] pointed at the above would sit fine with me.
apologies for my entries elsewhere on the site,
if any were taken the wrong way,
Quard
Offence wasn't possible.
I hadn't read your entries, as I am spectacularly slow at phone typing.
😀
Should be fine, as long as you cryo it first --
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That picture reminds me of my childhood , i spent many hours doing ' experiments '
with electricity , many of which involved hammering various objects into wall sockets and connecting them to my toys attempting to ' bring them to life ' .
I blame my parents for allowing me to watch Hammer horror films
I did have several shocks but i figured they would eventually turn me into some sort of super hero with awesome powers so it didn't deter me.
My experiments came to an abrupt end when my Mother caught me wiring my 4 year old sister into the ' circuit ' .
Fortunately she doesn't remember this but she does remember the time i decided to join the circus as a knife thrower and needed a practice assistant , the scar did fade with time though.
If electrocute waiting for super powers is perhaps sensible , but in my case, I would electrocute myself just to "enjoy the sensation" ... until I turn 5, as my parents tell me, and according something I remember.
Perhaps a new point to explore in BS audio: for achieving a new audio enjoyment, being in line with musician's aura, you need to direct connect with the audio signals, for a intimate audio experience. Only 5 to 10 seconds, touching the anode wire with the new SafeShock (tm) accesory (only 1999,99 dollars, a real bargain)! The new Safe Shock filters the bad karma from unprofessional musicians, leaving only pure audio nirvana! Remember, you need to power off the amplifier first, or you be contamine the delicate Safe Shock with bad starting time. When the SafeShock are secured in place, and finally powering on the amplifier, you only need to touch the metal pad it with the middle finger, for the already instructed time, playing you preferred music. Caution: if you not play a music during the connection time, your mind will be erased, like the zero signal present at moment.
Well, ENOUGH for now
, but in my case, I would electrocute myself just to "enjoy the sensation" ... until I turn 5, as my parents tell me, and according something I remember.Perhaps a new point to explore in BS audio: for achieving a new audio enjoyment, being in line with musician's aura, you need to direct connect with the audio signals, for a intimate audio experience. Only 5 to 10 seconds, touching the anode wire with the new SafeShock (tm) accesory (only 1999,99 dollars, a real bargain)! The new Safe Shock filters the bad karma from unprofessional musicians, leaving only pure audio nirvana! Remember, you need to power off the amplifier first, or you be contamine the delicate Safe Shock with bad starting time. When the SafeShock are secured in place, and finally powering on the amplifier, you only need to touch the metal pad it with the middle finger, for the already instructed time, playing you preferred music. Caution: if you not play a music during the connection time, your mind will be erased, like the zero signal present at moment.
Well, ENOUGH for now
OK the interview chimp writes
Which is a far cry from '3-4dB'. I wouldn't expect a director to even know what a dB was (or as I remember the factory manager once saying to an underling trying to explain why the production line had stopped 'don't you f****ng dB me boy').
Shame it's really just an advertorial for the installer.
I got a pair of AR 3's for a song in a similar scenario. But I wasn't so impressed, even after a restoration.
Yes.
Also: I wonder why no one has milked the transcranial stimulation angle yet with Hifi..:.. electrically stimulate auditory regions in the brain.
You could get a giant apparatus that can double as a posh listening chair, with a brain bucket like the hair drying machines from the 60's.
So, part home theater chair, part brain melter.
Transcranial direct-current stimulation - Wikipedia
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