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Old 13th December 2012, 03:07 PM   #71
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You are giving me a headache.

(makes me wonder how much migraine folks in Greece and/or Turkey have on average)
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Old 13th December 2012, 03:12 PM   #72
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Just divorce the source of the tension.
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Old 13th December 2012, 03:32 PM   #73
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Just divorce the source of the tension.
...and if you can't divorce yourself learn to meditate.
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Old 13th December 2012, 06:27 PM   #74
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No, it's the truth. Unfortunately. Any chemical relaxant disrupts natural abilities to relax. Even herbal ones, like Valerian root for example, if systematically taken as seductive, or sleep aid. Like the more the person rides in a wheelchair, the less trained are leg muscles. However, it is not so good analogy, because nervous and endocrine system learns faster and remembers better.
It would be too depressing to believe you that it's impossible to give up alchohol with no choice but to be dependent on another chemical. So I won't believe you. I will put down your experience to one where it isn't possible to cold turkey but after some intermediate steps you can eventually be free of chemical dependency.
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It would be too depressing to believe you that it's impossible to give up alchohol with no choice but to be dependent on another chemical. So I won't believe you. I will put down your experience to one where it isn't possible to cold turkey but after some intermediate steps you can eventually be free of chemical dependency.
You should believe millions of alcoholics who gave up addiction to chemicals, but found addiction to meditations. And you have to believe millions of alcoholics who tried to give up cold turkey without replacement. They inevitably relapsed because organisms lost skills to relax without chemicals. It is true. And even people who were 10 or more years sober after first draft relapsed. Because as soon as organism learned the skill to relax with chemicals, it won't give it up. Even after years of meditation and sobriety a single drink returns everything back. Tension grows up until "Fly-Or-Fight" reaction happens, impossible to control by mind. Then the mind follows the reaction searching for the logical ways to explain why it happened.

Necessity to meditate every day is not depressing. It is relaxing, leads to real happiness. I know alcoholics who call themselves, "Grateful alcoholics". Thanks to alcohol they found new spiritual life.

If you are curious are you alcoholic or not yet, try not to touch alcohol at least half an year. And no sleeping pills and other chemical relaxants! Then see what happens...
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Old 13th December 2012, 08:23 PM   #76
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I believe I can avoid alcohol for 6 months without problem except social limitations as I already drink very little at all. But I don't believe I could go very long without other things (hobbies, nice food, music, comfortable home, healthy family and I do meditate in different ways) that allow me to relax - as you point out.

And I don't think I could go 6 months without posting on this forum - what kind of problem is that !?
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Old 13th December 2012, 10:52 PM   #77
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Pepper spray up your nose. Stop a headache before it snowballs.
Especially when you've taken all the medication you safely can,
and desperate to try ANYTHING more you can stack.

This stuff isn't really even all that potent. I've shoved peppers
before it came in this convenient (and consistent dosing) spray.

Whole peppers too variable. Nothing or Nuclear. Pay you money,
take you chances. When you need them most, you aren't really
thinking too straight about the risk.

I used to get one sided cluster headaches, maybe not same as
a migraine.

There's supposed to be a new version enhanced with horseradish.
I don't know if I'm ready for that step...

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You are giving me a headache.

(makes me wonder how much migraine folks in Greece and/or Turkey have on average)
you are being rude, if you don't want a headache then don't read my posts.
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If u don't feel hungry before your meal, u r probably on improper eating habits i.e. u eat a lot without necessity or do not burn enough calories.

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How do you deal with migraines? When I was young it passed much faster. Now it is 1-3 weeks of mild headache, then knocks me down for 2-3 days...
Avoid hangovers, keep drinking, stay drunk!
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