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Old 1st November 2012, 03:06 AM   #31
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The point is that recognised researchers, in university and similar environments have tackled these issues very seriously, and still have obtained telling results.
No, they haven't. Arrogant fools that thought that they can't be tricked have destroyed their own academic careers, but no, not a single solid piece of evidence. Not one.

But hey, Bybee Quantum Purifiers and LP demagnetizers, those are for real!
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Old 1st November 2012, 03:12 AM   #32
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Here is my psychic prediction. When analyzed up into the gigahertz range, bybee purifiers will reveal nothing special.

You heard it here first!
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Old 1st November 2012, 03:17 AM   #33
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OK, Mr. Smart Guy, what brand of network analyzer?
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Old 1st November 2012, 03:32 AM   #34
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Hmmmmm......... It's coming to me out of a mist, the letters are forming in my mind... something Red and Black?
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Kevin.

Your tag line is missing a word that totally makes it work.

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy!

Now you know.

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Old 1st November 2012, 03:58 AM   #36
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James,

Thanks...I'm aware of that version but I'd rather be looking at a bottle I've been sippin' from a while, much more mellow!
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Old 1st November 2012, 05:13 AM   #37
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Sorry, but I've been interested in the subject for years and read widely in the field. As Fox Moulder's office wall poster states "I want to believe". But I can't. Yes, there are a very few cases that have no obvious causes, but even those do not present enough evidence to prove paranormal phenomena.
There will never be "proof" in the normal sense because it operates outside the paradigm of conventional science. If you've read widely you should be aware that there can never be a separation of the subject and the observer (get out of here, you bloody cat!!) in this field: as a simple example, if the "scientist" doesn't believe it's possible to get the result, then he won't! -- the "universe" is very compliant and adjusts to fit the "needs" of the observer, so to speak ...

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I'm liking the fat man slipping on the banana peel stories now ...

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They are not con artists because they truly believe in their own powers. It's too bad this also happens in the medical profession, where far more money and higher stakes are in the balance.
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There will never be "proof" in the normal sense because it operates outside the paradigm of conventional science.

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So does homeopathy, faith healing and the workings of sub-prime interest deals. If you have yet to see the connection, you are a lost cause.

BTW, there is no alternative to "conventional" science (bar ignorance) so the adjective is superfluous
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