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Old 4th November 2012, 05:55 PM   #161
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it can be synesthesia, when information perceived by some senses or other means causes images that "complete" this information to some known image that is better to understand. Like audiophiles hear "soft" sound that they can't touch, or "bright" sound that they can't see, but such sensations have more meaning for them than sounds alone. I believe similar phenomenon causes aura, when mind organizes an information in the form of color cloud around the head. I don't mean channels of perception, I mean representation of information. Such tricks of representation can be learned. I know one doctor that sees a gauge in his imagination that shows him blood sugar level. He trained himself to do that. It does not mean that he "sees the gauge from an outer world", but what he sees is well calibrated. People even organize control panels in their minds to measure and control functions of their bodies. And that panels really work.
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That is how I teach it.
It works very well.
I can use it to control blood pressure, blood sugar, temperature, or many other things.
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Old 4th November 2012, 06:09 PM   #162
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That is how I teach it.
It works very well.
I can use it to control blood pressure, blood sugar, temperature, or many other things.
Dr Bandler teaches the same on seminars. Quite expensive, though. I took one back in 2004. I remember one German guy mumbling, "What should I do now in Germany with your feet and inches?!", after the exercise to calibrate visual distance measurement.

By the way, about connection between creatures, in 1980'th were discovered unknown yet groups of cells, "Mirror Neurones" that translate exteroceptive information into "psychosomatic" one. It is the part of "Brain-to-brain" communication system that causes one person to feel what other person is feeling. Again, it does not explain mechanisms of information transfer, they can be any, in any combination of representative systems, let's not exclude presensory perception.
Without this groups of cells learning by observing with such rate we have would be impossible. But it is not enough to know about them plus sensory perceptions in order to explain all phenomena of interpersonal communications. There are other "channels", I know that, because I am aware of their existence experimentally.
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Old 4th November 2012, 06:33 PM   #163
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Its interesting,

If communication was taking place between worlds, then telepathy would have to exist for the transfer of information..However if the information received was about a third party that the reciever does not know and can then be proved by a third party at a later date..where is this information comming from?

Also I had examples after circles when it should have closed down and the feeling remained enough for a dog to be licking the Air above me as though it was licking someones face...the feeling would then move back from me and the dog return to normal behaviour..the dog was responding to something invisible (to me and others but the dog could definitely see something)...It was not trained or any slight of hand that produced this situation. The feelings that came to me would change the shape of my muscles and produce pain and symptoms of old age...these would go as the feeling moved away from me..I would feel taller, shorter, fatter, thinner..
I would know things about people that I could not know..A system of symbols were starting to be created like some strange sign language..It was very strange..

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Nothing strange, if you know that when a group of people synchronize this group starts acting like a single entity. What's the difference between your round table and a circle around a fire with leading shaman? The same flocking.
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Old 4th November 2012, 06:53 PM   #165
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I reached a point,

Where I knew I had to make a decision..If I continued I would not be able to go back..I thought I had enough information for "me" and decided to stop.

At the same time every week for a couple of months I could feel this closeness with me..I had to meditate for about 15 mins and let it move away...

It was a very interesting research project...Of course it makes you think what is all this telling me...(who knows)

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Old 4th November 2012, 07:15 PM   #166
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Dr Bandler teaches the same on seminars. Quite expensive, though. I took one back in 2004. I remember one German guy mumbling, "What should I do now in Germany with your feet and inches?!", after the exercise to calibrate visual distance measurement.
Yes, I teach Bandler's methods too.
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Old 6th November 2012, 01:23 PM   #167
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Well,

I guess it would have been interesting to have built up the image association...(sign language)..I think I lost my nerve..Part of me keep thinking its a pile of rubbish and imagination (including my science trained mind) However the more I studdied the more I found it difficult to dismiss..

I used to sit with the healers and have healing to see what took place as well...Mostly just lots of colours floating about in your eyes...Then one day, there was an Older guy with thick glasses who seemed to shuffle about..very nice guy but your thoughts went something like (Oh here we go..LOL)..They used to mark your attendance on a card just for interest (no money ever changed hands)..he said I think you come here for a bit of piece and quiet, anyway I'll just hold your hands for a while...He sat in front of me I held his hands...................Then I opened my eyes, I was shaking all over and couldn't stop..it made me laugh...the guy was still there..he said youve been gone a long time..I looked up at the clock 3/4 of an hour had passed, I couldn't remember anything just the shaking kept on..he said its OK you have someone close...I said in my mind please leave..the feeling started to back away..the guy said," there you go its leaving you"...This was another confirmation He could feel it move away before I said anything..

When I had the reaction from the dog I guess I could not dismiss it..It wasn't spookey it just worried me because I could not link "it" to my science mind it could not be true..(What was it that I couldn't see) worried me...However I did have a good Idea what it was, from images in my mind..(It was OK a woman that one of the others in circle had known) The conflict of it (can't be) was almost impossible to come to terms with...Perhaps thats why I stopped..(I felt out of my depth)..The science part of my mind could not except that there could be something else.. (the world is flat comes to mind)

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Old 6th November 2012, 09:41 PM   #168
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I will add,

It is supposed to be bad practice to do what I have done here and just set out what I have experienced...However there is no disclaimer..this is what happened..I have no Idea how it works...I have theories, however they all fall short..I would say if you can laugh it off great...

This is why I stand by the belief that there is something.. When I hear about psychic this or that is not provable..Perhaps I agree..My research such that it is made me stop in my tracks..I expected to find nothing and a pile of fake stuff...I found some very religious people with strong beliefs that wanted to help people..I state again I'm still not religious...If it exists then its a natural part of the universe (or other)..

Its nice that when I wanted to stop..whatever it was just waited to see if I would change my mind...when it was sure I would not continue...It left me to continue my life...I do believe that I would never do this without the help of people like this...The mistake is to assume its all a pile of rubbish and have a good laugh (then play with fire) this kind of thing is in contact with a non physical part of us...this can effect the physical level...It took me 4 years of research...

NB I am not a medium... no further comment.. (in some way...its hard not to believe in something after this)

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I think I should add this..

I thought about it and put it off and so on..
So I think I will post it... This was a discussion That took place..Take it or leave it..laugh if you like...After a few months I took it very seriously..

OK now you are getting information... Remember this...<<told to me..

You need a tool kit..What I said..you have lost me..

Would you open the doors and windows in your house then go to bed?
No I said...well don't do it in circle either...

A circle of light is protected..the brightness draws lost spirit...If you are very strong you might be able to help them..(Don't do this) <<I have the "T" shirt so to speak..

You must be in control at all times...I don't understand...here is a thought..you are traveling down the motorway at 70mph..suddenly all you can see is Sailisbury plain in front of you..well it wouldn't do you any good would it...

Never "sit" on your own (meditation is OK)...why.....Because there is something called trance...
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PS.. there was no table in the middle of the circle or anything else...just chairs in a circle..in a warm room with low light.

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Would you open the doors and windows in your house then go to bed?
No I said...well don't do it in circle either...
Wise counsel ... in simple terms, just think of how our world works, full of trolls and people who get a kick of disturbing others in myriads of ways, because they're bored or equivalent. Well, there no "rule" that says anything outside of our normal understanding of reality doesn't have similar "problems". If you always retain a healthy scepticism, at all times, then it will be a good aid ...

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